I'm bored when I heal because I need more complex DPS rotations

[ty_taurus]

Name me one job that just pushes one button. Name me one. Sure as hell aren't any I've played. Not one job just hits one button. You're lying and exaggerating.

I can name you four:

Is that literally just pushing one button? No. But the fact that all four of these jobs press one button more than every other button on their hotbar combined is a disgrace. And that's P12S for reference. Imagine how much higher the percentage of stupid filler attack spell use those same jobs see in easy content, or solo content. It's giving level 4 Black Mage.

[Aravell]

Is that literally just pushing one button? No. But the fact that all four of these jobs press one button more than every other button on their hotbar combined is a disgrace. And that's P12S for reference. Imagine how much higher the percentage of stupid filler attack spell use those same jobs see in easy content, or solo content. It's giving level 4 Black Mage.

There's been plenty of people trying the same line of "You're not literally pressing only one button", but that's incredibly dismissive of the very real issue. It's not only in savage, even in ultimates you're pressing 1 button 70-80% of the time. I honestly can't think of a single RPG where you press 1 button for 80% of your gameplay and it being considered good gameplay.

[ty_taurus]

There's been plenty of people trying the same line of "You're not literally pressing only one button", but that's incredibly dismissive of the very real issue. It's not only in savage, even in ultimates you're pressing 1 button 70-80% of the time. I honestly can't think of a single RPG where you press 1 button for 80% of your gameplay and it being considered good gameplay.

For reference (because I've seen this "um actually" counter argument before), When pushed to the wall, between 50%-60% of a good healer's total action usage is their neutral game DPS spell. 80%+ is referring to the healer's total GCD action usage, meaning it filters out OGCD healing and other OGCD tools. Because even when you are weaving OGCDs, your gameplay is still almost entirely 1 attack spell.

[Sebazy]

I can name you four:

I couldn't have said it better++

I've always felt like the healers are actually there to be low apm entry into savage prog. And if you don't like that gameplay then...play another job?

I didn't manage to quote this in time (yay for not logging on for 2 weeks, wonder why), AST kind of puts that theory clean to bed tbh, it's burst APM is right up there. SCH also used to be seriously high APM back in the day if you were willing to micro manage the fairy. I personally used pedals at one stage to drive the embrace spam.

A big part of why many people are so bitter about it at this stage is because of how far the entire role has regressed. The powerhouse SCHs or ASTs of old just have little to nothing left to work with anymore. Our depth consists of spreadsheeting healing plans with a co healer and following that. Running casual content? GLHF, there's just nothing to strive for or chase.

[Supersnow845]

I can name you four:

Is that literally just pushing one button? No. But the fact that all four of these jobs press one button more than every other button on their hotbar combined is a disgrace. And that's P12S for reference. Imagine how much higher the percentage of stupid filler attack spell use those same jobs see in easy content, or solo content. It's giving level 4 Black Mage.

I had a trigger happy medica 2 WHM in euphrosyne so didn’t need to do a single heal

https://imgur.com/a/DWbgO1B

This is what it looked like, barely 500 casts in a 30 minute raid, 70% of them broil, a spell that feels like a wet fart going off when it’s cast, how can anyone justify this as good design

I even mentioned that inside the raid, that it felt like garbage doing nothing but casting broil and I basically got told to play another job

[Aravell]

I had a trigger happy medica 2 WHM in euphrosyne so didn’t need to do a single heal



This is what it looked like, barely 500 casts in a 30 minute raid, 70% of them broil, a spell that feels like a wet fart going off when it’s cast, how can anyone justify this as good design

I even mentioned that inside the raid, that it felt like garbage doing nothing but casting broil and I basically got told to play another job

Ah yes, the age-old retort of "Don't like it? Play another job". Ok.....which one? The entire role is exactly the same and suffers from the same problems.

My other favourite argument is "You're not allowed to have good design because then someone might die! "

[Supersnow845]

Ah yes, the age-old retort of "Don't like it? Play another job". Ok.....which one? The entire role is exactly the same and suffers from the same problems.

My other favourite argument is "You're not allowed to have good design because then someone might die! "

“Sorry you can’t have fun because then it may lead to me dying, your job is to stand there and keep me alive while I do 1/10th of my potential damage by spamming hakaze”

Is apparently the thought process of the DPS main who designs the healers is