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    Aravell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Hm...to be fair, wasn't this generally true of WHM as well? SB WHM had two DoTs (Aero1/2 [upgrade], Aero 3) and a filler (Stone or Holy). It didn't have Misery in SB at all (basically traded Aero 3 for Afflatus spells in the SB to ShB transition), and Assize was (and is) a oGCD just like Earthly Star.

    The only healer this WASN'T true of in SB was SCH.
    A lot of people who joined in ShB have been repeating certain phrases until it kind of spread out all over the role at this point. Having lived through that era of going into ShB, the exact arguments were:
    WHM: "Give us back our nature spells and Aero III"
    SCH: "Give us back our damage spells and Energy Drain"
    AST: "Give us back our card effects and associated systems"

    Only SCH mains specifically mentioned damage spells back then. I don't think any AST main in SB complained about the reduction in dps spells. In fact, everyone used to call the gutting of dps spells "a reduction to the AST dps rotation". WHM mains did complain about losing Aero III though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Actually Astros only had 1 dot in stormblood. THey just had Malefic 3 and combust 2. The other damage actions were earthly star and random minor arcana single target lord which was rng. It was heavensward where they actually had 4 dps buttons. Malefic 2, combust, combust 2 and aero. The thing that stormblood did was reduce their cast time to 1.5 for the card weaving.
    Did SB combine the single target DoTs? I don't clearly remember that part, I just remembered it was Combust II and assumed they had 2 DoTs, 1 casted and 1 instant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    The problem here is it wouldn't have "interesting cards and interactions". Or...not what you would likely consider such, anyway.
    What I want is different from what I'm fine with. I've said before that I'd be satisfied if they reverted AST and SCH back to the SB playstyle, though I'd prefer a playstyle more like HW SMN myself, but I can see that not everyone wants or enjoys something so convoluted. SB, however, is a decent baseline which most can accept to be a good compromise between HW and ShB.
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    Last edited by Aravell; 08-31-2023 at 02:54 PM.