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    Regarding that statement of "players only stay with a game if it hooks them emotionally" if you are going to apply that specifically to job and/or encounter design I don't see how you can or should treater all players as a monolithic block.

    There are players that stay in this game because of glamour, or because of RPG, and that pass the entirety of their game in Limsa or in clubs. Some of these players are are likely very invested in their character's lore and how it looks, possibly their animations but not its progression or skill floor/ceiling.

    Finally, can anyone point me to the source of those people who are actually asking for complex DPS skills for healers? I still haven't seen it..ever.

    Let's compare this to savage or ultimate raider. What's the emotional hook there? It is far more likely to be the job optimization, the sense of achievement when they complete a difficult duty in most efficient way possible synchronizing their skills with their party.
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    Last edited by IDontPetLalas; 08-29-2023 at 04:56 AM. Reason: error in original post- should have been complex "DPS" not healing

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Finally, can anyone point me to the source of those people who are actually asking for complex healing skills for healers? I still haven't seen it..ever.
    Go spend more time on the healer forums then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    Go spend more time on the healer forums then.
    You're still not providing an answer, but nice try at trying to deflect the argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    You're still not providing an answer, but nice try at trying to deflect the argument.
    lmao, what 'argument'? You haven't made an argument, you've asked for the 'source' of a gameplay preference for more complex healing skills which is held by multiple people, including myself, who almost certainly developed our preference for it in tens to hundreds of different ways and tens to hundreds of different games played previously.

    No, seriously, go read threads on the healer forums and make notes of the people complaining about the heals being boring 'bar go up' one-and-done buttons with no interactivity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    lmao, what 'argument'? You haven't made an argument, you've asked for the 'source' of a gameplay preference for more complex healing skills which is held by multiple people, including myself, who almost certainly developed our preference for it in tens to hundreds of different ways and tens to hundreds of different games played previously.

    No, seriously, go read threads on the healer forums and make notes of the people complaining about the heals being boring 'bar go up' one-and-done buttons with no interactivity.
    I just realized that I made an error in my earlier post - my bad- I had meant to reference complex DPS requirements. Not healing. Honest mistake which I only realized when you replied now.

    I don't need to "read the replies on the healer forums", I post there fairly regularly, on the contrary as you're posting on a (I assume) disposable account- that's a bit amusing. Not to mention I'm directly impacted by the current design.

    That's also why I'm aware that that this discussion has been ongoing for quite a while, that there have been some excellent discussion, and that is quite a bit more complex and nuanced that 'health bar go up".
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