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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    You'll be surprised that can be challenging to some folks especially in FLs where the battle dynamic is ever so fluid things can quickly change in less than 5s. I do see your point on thinking how it can be annoying though. I just personally don't see it that way when I know what their purpose is. Perhaps reserve the <se.1> for the prompt & execution specifically would be a fine compromise IMHO.
    See to me that many sounds has the exact opposite effect ( but I have no problem counting or rather feeling the exact passing of time) and I find myself unable to think clearly. I know from talking to others that I am not the only one.

    I am not an afker, I know how points are counted and I like coordination and some call outs, find the use of some sounds useful but those macros marking the passing of each second are extremely distracting and irritating to some people and they are often combined with many other sound macros of varied importance.

    I think that the compromise You mention makes sense and is reasonable. I believe that something like this would achieve the same thing and be a lot less annoying:

    /a Get Burst Ready in 5 <se.8><wait.1>
    /a 5 <wait.1>
    /a 4 <wait.1>
    /a 3 <wait.1>
    /a 2 <wait.1>
    /a 1 <wait.1>
    /a Push <se.7>

    You still see the passing seconds if you need them and the sounds are used for the most significant parts. It a balance thing.


    Still frontlines is frontlines, there will always be people running like chickens with their heads cut off, sound or no sound.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 08-24-2023 at 07:45 PM.

  2. #22
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    remember before anything else is said and done, if the way a team plays is too much for you to handle you always reserve the right to leave the match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    See to me that many sounds has the exact opposite effect ( but I have no problem counting or rather feeling the exact passing of time) and I find myself unable to think clearly.
    That does not make the macro report-worthy or toxic. It's just not optimal for YOU. Have you ever heard of auditory learners? Some people want to use their eyes and look at enemies and prepare their LB or burst instead of looking at the chat log for 5 4 3 2 1.

    Reporting things that don't work for you but work for others, and calling it toxic and moronic is the epitome of toxic casualism.

    The universe doesn't adjust to you. Frontline veterans use these macros because they work more often than not.
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    Last edited by Noumenon; 08-24-2023 at 07:49 PM.

  4. #24
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    I for one think those macros are great. We win way more games when someone uses them.
    People don't stop fighting to read. The sfx are there to catch everyone's attention and it works as intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    That does not make the macro report-worthy or toxic. It's just not optimal for YOU. Have you ever heard of auditory learners? Some people want to use their eyes and look at enemies and prepare their LB or burst instead of looking at the chat log for 5 4 3 2 1.

    Reporting things that don't work for you but work for others, and calling it toxic and moronic is the epitome of toxic casualism.

    The universe doesn't adjust to you. Frontline veterans use these macros because they work more often than not.
    spam is spam and it is not just me: it’s annoying to a lot of people. Usually the matches where it has been problematic, many complained. Why not try to find a solution that achieves the intended goal just the same without the spam. Maybe more people would follow directives too.

    This is not about casualism so stop with this bs.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    spam is spam and it is not just me: it’s annoying to a lot of people.
    its not spam if its being used as the chat box is intended, to help coordinate and inform the instance party of the current goal, mechanics, and strat, its directly being used as intended..
    when you join a party the chat is there for that content..

    when it comes to frontline, the team that uses the markers, the players that coordinate and mark, the players taht go the extra mile to play as a TEAM, thats the grp that wins..
    time and time again i see people unwilling to do anything but spam "KILL MAEL" in /a, then no one pays attention, they all spread and end up free points for the enemy..

    you should be thanking the people willing to help, not reporting them.

    The game already gives the the ability to hide the chat and mute the sounds, YOU refuse to do it , why? is it because you are just feigning offended for attention? are you just playing victim so you can win some pity points? because lord knows your definitely not nearly as annoyed as your pretending to be if you are willing to just stubbornly suffer it all for some childish demand of a "better solution"
    heres an ideal, stay out of grp content, then the chat can be exclusively for your casual fc chat or weird RP fantasys..

    this isnt about a fix, that already exists, this is about not understating the need for something and playing victim because of it. as noum said, its a case of toxic casualism, its a childish fit because you didnt get your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    spam is spam and it is not just me: it’s annoying to a lot of people. Usually the matches where it has been problematic, many complained. Why not try to find a solution that achieves the intended goal just the same without the spam. Maybe more people would follow directives too.

    This is not about casualism so stop with this bs.
    I don't think I've ever seen anyone complain when someone leads that well in a FL (using sfx macros). More of the opposite, most people praise them for doing it.
    I'm not denying that it can be annoying for some people but to say "it’s annoying to a lot of people. Usually the matches where it has been problematic, many complained" has most definitely not been my experience. I don't think I've ever seen someone complain about it actually now that I think of it.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    The game already gives the the ability to hide the chat and mute the sounds,
    To be fair, the sounds option should be updated. Pretty sure you can't only turn off the sfx macros but have to turn off all other player audio to achieve that. Unless they updated it at some point and I wasn't aware.
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    Last edited by Thurmnmurmn; 08-24-2023 at 08:37 PM.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen anyone complain when someone leads that well in a FL (using sfx macros).[...]
    Which made me question the OP: what sort of 'macros' were being spammed?
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    this doesn't really sound like a drop everything emergency, im sure they will get back to you when they can, until then you will just have sit patiently and perhaps learn to cope.

    i swear some of you people act like spamming an emote is causing you actual harm, if youre so high strung over something that minor maybe turn of the internet and go back to single player for a bit.
    you clearly didn't read my post. they were not spamming emotes. they were spamming macros and sound effects. even if we hid the window the sound effects would still go off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    Yikes. So someone using macros and sound effects telling people what node to capture or what team to attack is now being reported.

    Toxic casualism knows no bounds. The fact you call them a "pvp tryhard" tells us what the other side of the story is.
    casual callouts I have no problem with, spamming a SOUND EFFEC MACRO 20+ times in succession Is what I had a problem with and what the toxic player was doing!
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...4530/image.png
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    Last edited by LadyZubat; 08-24-2023 at 10:48 PM.
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