Latest Official Developer Statements About Healer DPS?

[mallleable]

Whatever potential DPS rotation healers get, I think it should resemble a caster rotation. Like look at RDM, BLM or even what can be gleaned from PIC. Even just giving healers caster mechanics like Dual Cast or Umbral Hearts would go a long way to adding more moving parts to healer jobs.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

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I mean… isn’t that what ShB pruning and EW simplification had done? Moving and adding a lot recovery potency to oGCD/DPS neutral options so that you don’t need to lose DPS?

Where does that take us now if it’s not pairing us with those very same ‘barse minded’ healers you see?

[ForteNightshade]

I mean… isn’t that what ShB pruning and EW simplification had done? Moving and adding a lot recovery potency to oGCD/DPS neutral options so that you don’t need to lose DPS?

Where does that take us now if it’s not pairing us with those very same ‘barse minded’ healers you see?

This correlation is what far too many people fail to realize. Speaking for myself, I optimize healing to the point of trying to zero GCD PF not for a parse but because it's legitimately the only way I find the role fun. When I figured out how to slide cast through Acts 1 and 2 of P4S without needing anything but Sprint and Phlegma, it was oddly exhilarating if only because I needed to be precise spots and do very quick movement for it all to work. In retrospect, it's sad that was the most fun aspect of playing a healer in that fight... not the actual healing. Granted, getting Act 4 down to where I wasn't touching a GCD was also fun.

Point being, if parsing magically disappeared tomorrow, I'd still prefer playing healers like that for the most part because otherwise the role is incredibly boring. Give me a genuine realize to use my healing GCDs and I'll drop the Dosis casts without much thought. Trying to salvage a near wipe can also be exhilarating but it's often not worth the effort.

[Somnolence]

I mean… isn’t that what ShB pruning and EW simplification had done? Moving and adding a lot recovery potency to oGCD/DPS neutral options so that you don’t need to lose DPS?

Where does that take us now if it’s not pairing us with those very same ‘barse minded’ healers you see?

All existing oGCD options are timed/resource based. There is no spammable oGCD heals. This means that if the party is taking enough damage replacing glare with GDC heal becomes unavoidable. This is big healer design flaw that must be addressed before healer DPS rotation can be implemented.

[Supersnow845]

All existing oGCD options are timed/resource based. There is no spammable oGCD heals. This means that if the party is taking enough damage replacing glare with GDC heal becomes unavoidable. This is big healer design flaw that must be addressed before healer DPS rotation can be implemented.

Spammable oGCD healing would send the skill ceiling hurtling through the floor so quickly it could sink a ship

[Somnolence]

Spammable oGCD healing would send the skill ceiling hurtling through the floor so quickly it could sink a ship

Skill ceiling would be purely about dps then, like for tanks where mitigation and aggro management is braindead.

[Supersnow845]

Skill ceiling would be purely about dps then, like for tanks where mitigation and aggro management is braindead.

The tanks still have to at least consider how they stagger and organise their CD’s around damage and the CD’s

A spammable oGCD heal Is just insanely powerful because you can weave it after everything, all other healing skills become useless you would just go glare^heal->glare^heal->dia^heal heal->glare, at that point you could macro it to a foot pedal like we used to do with HW embrace and suddenly you aren’t even a healer anymore

The problem is the fact that oGCD’s are too powerful, a GCD heal’less run should be impossible, we literally had this design till ShB, why are we acting like it’s impossible, people feel like casting a GCD heal is gimping their DPS BECAUSE it’s possible to do a GCD heal’less run (whether not casting a GCD heal when it’s needed is griefing or not is irrelevant to the point)

[ty_taurus]

And how does this help with healer shortage?

For one, I’d go back to being a career healer.

I spent a little bit of time giving Sage a fair chance, but otherwise I have not healed since the last day of Stormblood. And I’m currently waiting by the exit because healer changes are going to be a make or break for me in DT, and there are other healer players who have left specifically because of the changes before as well. Doubtlessly there are players who have also left without talking about it. Is that a large number of players? Who knows, but we know it has pushed away at least some people.

Meanwhile, erasing DPS certainly has not increased the healer population, so evidence suggests adding it back would not have the adverse effects that removing it has.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I've said it before and I'll said it again: the current healer design framework will only make sense if you view it from a DPS/Tank mains lenses. It is NOT made for healers mains. Their true purpose is to make sure Duty Finder queue pops faster/survive through mechanics designed to be RNGfest if not all appropriate role is present.

[Somnolence]

The tanks still have to at least consider how they stagger and organise their CD’s around damage and the CD’s

A spammable oGCD heal Is just insanely powerful because you can weave it after everything, all other healing skills become useless you would just go glare^heal->glare^heal->dia^heal heal->glare, at that point you could macro it to a foot pedal like we used to do with HW embrace and suddenly you aren’t even a healer anymore

The problem is the fact that oGCD’s are too powerful, a GCD heal’less run should be impossible, we literally had this design till ShB, why are we acting like it’s impossible, people feel like casting a GCD heal is gimping their DPS BECAUSE it’s possible to do a GCD heal’less run (whether not casting a GCD heal when it’s needed is griefing or not is irrelevant to the point)

You are thinking from current bloated healer kit perspective. Naturally for this to be balanced we would need to cut down amount of healing skills a lot and balance remaining ones based on MP and class resource usage. So if you spam Cure 3 needlessly you would go OOM.

I've said it before and I'll said it again: the current healer design framework will only make sense if you view it from a DPS/Tank mains lenses. It is NOT made for healers mains. Their true purpose is to make sure Duty Finder queue pops faster/survive through mechanics designed to be RNGfest if not all appropriate role is present.

You are on to something here. To me current healer role feels outdated, from older style MMOs with harder trinity. This is why it feels so bad - it feels a bit out of place.

T I have no idea why SE decided to chase non-healer mains and try to effectively 'bribe' them onto the role with promises of easy rides through content

They haven't done anything to appease dps players. Getting new oGDCs every expansion is what they do for all jobs, as they have no clue what to do otherwise. So DPS will get yet another oGDC button and healers another oGDC heal in DT for sure.