Timegated Content You Need A FC For = I Ignore

[Darkobra]

People know I'm talking about needing to play with a static group of players over end game raiding just for timegated loot.

Trying to feign like they don't know what the OP is talking about always going to happen to criticism.

Nobody knew that. I don't do dungeons with an FC. I do not know where you're getting this impression.

[Mcg55ss]

As somebody who has been around about a year I will say he's probably referring to FC when he means static because as many you know if you came from world of Warcraft most raiding in that game is done through guild and you need a guild that meets your requirements to progress where is this game it's a little bit different at as your statics generally aren't FC and you have a pretty healthy pug/pf system in this game. Though I will say getting raiding as somebody that doesn't want to go through pf is a challenge if you're new because a lot of the statics tend to use logs and add-ons to judge members or want somebody with experience and if you don't have that you're pretty much stuck in pf, or not doing the content. I myself decided to forgo the content because I couldn't find a static that would take my friends and me being we're very green and we decided just to try to progress criterion since it only requires four and it's supposed to be difficult content (please give better rewards in 7.0)

[BRVV]

As somebody who has been around about a year I will say he's probably referring to FC when he means static because as many you know if you came from world of Warcraft (...)

So how much of WoW do i need to play to correctly understand posts by players that don't bother expressing themselves well? I'm sorry but i never played WoW.

[Mcg55ss]

So how much of WoW do i need to play to correctly understand posts by players that don't bother expressing themselves well? I'm sorry but i never played WoW.

That's understandable it wasn't for everybody but it was the most popular MMO at one point so I assume at some point majority have played it. Basically all you would have to do is probably play a week maybe two you would understand because wow's leveling is pretty trivial you can do it fairly quickly if you hit it hard. And then once you get there it's just the process of gearing and getting into a raid which like I said most raids go through their own guild or FC as ffxiv calls it.

[BRVV]

That's understandable it wasn't for everybody but it was the most popular MMO at one (...)

Thank you for your help. I don't actually have any interest in WoW though (^.^')
I just think i shouldn't need that to understand a FFXIV forum post. I mean i don't say "agi" to fire spells just because i played Persona and SMT games. I don't mind the OP's original post but the attitude that everyone should have understood that. On top of that people have pointed out (and missunderstood) that there is FC only content - the submarine and airship missions

[Mcg55ss]

Thank you for your help. I don't actually have any interest in WoW though (^.^')
I just think i shouldn't need that to understand a FFXIV forum post. I mean i don't say "agi" to fire spells just because i played Persona and SMT games. I don't mind the OP's original post but the attitude that everyone should have understood that. On top of that people have pointed out (and missunderstood) that there is FC only content - the submarine and airship missions

He did have a little bit of attitude but I'm guessing he's probably newer doesn't understand some of the lingo or hasn't adjusted fully yet. I mean I still call FC guilds constantly because it's an old habit. He's probably just frustrated and you know how it is usually when people are mad they'll come to the forums to vent some of that anger while not fully being aware of some thing

[SquishyPlushie]

He did have a little bit of attitude but I'm guessing he's probably newer doesn't understand some of the lingo or hasn't adjusted fully yet. I mean I still call FC guilds constantly because it's an old habit. He's probably just frustrated and you know how it is usually when people are mad they'll come to the forums to vent some of that anger while not fully being aware of some thing

The feedback is meant for the devs. Arguing with people on any video game forums forums is like kicking dirt as people have doubled down their opinions due to sunk cost fallacy. People will try to assume things about you or say you didn't want to play a mode really or just straight up say the opposite. I have zero tolerance for that as it's a mental gymnastics loop people have.

[BRVV]

The feedback is meant for the devs.

Good luck with that.


Devs don't read forums.

People will try to assume things about you or say you didn't want to play a mode really or just straight up say the opposite.

The only mental gymnastics i saw here was calling Raids and Dungeons "FC-only" content but whatever.

[Mcg55ss]

The feedback is meant for the devs. Arguing with people on any video game forums forums is like kicking dirt as people have doubled down their opinions due to sunk cost fallacy. People will try to assume things about you or say you didn't want to play a mode really or just straight up say the opposite. I have zero tolerance for that as it's a mental gymnastics loop people have.

Okay this proves you didn't come from WoW because if you know anything you know that devs never look at the forums, so good luck being a troll

[SquishyPlushie]

I did come from wow, and I'm aware of that sentiment. I'm hoping SE at some level is different from Blizzard.

And yes I'm serious about all my posts. Painting someone you don't like or disagree with as a troll to demean and downplay their opinion's value ain't it.

If you're wondering why I'm aggro about timegate, I see steering people to timegate shticks as a copy of what Blizzard does, which drives me up the wall. Copying industry practices to farm player sunk costing rather than letting them value the IP naturally is a sticking point.

Weekly Vault and Raid Lockouts got me to quit WoW. Sure, mythic+ was engaging and fun, but the timegate loot made it feel like the loot was meaningless and devoid of respecting effort. I do not want a repeat of this dropout in FFXIV as this game is of a higher quality, and I feel strongly for wanting it to feel worthwhile to engage with.