Technically, why does RDM's Vercure heal more than SMN's Physick?

[Iscah]

You won't notice it at low levels because caster gear is shared with healers until just before Lv50, so casters have the same amount of mind as healers from Lv01 to Lv45-Lv49. But when SMN starts wearing exclusively caster gear the power of Physick immediately drops to almost nothing because all their mind points over naked base mind disappear.

This makes me think of Bozja's upscaling of gear stats – I've heard that it's efficient for WHMs to take a wand and shield in there as it gets boosted to level 80 stats despite being underpowered in any other situation.

Does the same apply to SMN gear? Can they wear something with mind stat on it and get boosted up to have a working Physick?

Probably moot due to Lost Cure, but still.

[Supersnow845]

This makes me think of Bozja's upscaling of gear stats – I've heard that it's efficient for WHMs to take a wand and shield in there as it gets boosted to level 80 stats despite being underpowered in any other situation.

Does the same apply to SMN gear? Can they wear something with mind stat on it and get boosted up to have a working Physick?

Probably moot due to Lost Cure, but still.

No

The difference the shield makes is absolutely tiny (like fractions of a percent)

Outside of the haste gear from CLL and DRS all classes are scaled to a particular stat set; not based on gear

[GrayLowell]

This makes me think of Bozja's upscaling of gear stats – I've heard that it's efficient for WHMs to take a wand and shield in there as it gets boosted to level 80 stats despite being underpowered in any other situation.

Does the same apply to SMN gear? Can they wear something with mind stat on it and get boosted up to have a working Physick?

Probably moot due to Lost Cure, but still.

I'm pretty sure people went with a shield for a chance to block. Both on WHM and BLM

[Payadopa]

I had heard this might be the case. Is there anything in the game itself that would clue a player into this? Or is this just one of those things that you can only learn by going outside the game (from someone who datamined, a developer who explained that's the way it is, etc)?

Or you could ask one of the many players whom you share the game with old school style. That's usually what I do.

[Iscah]

Or you could ask one of the many players whom you share the game with old school style. That's usually what I do.

This isn't the sort of question that just any random person in the game will know the answer to. Forums are supposed to be a resource for asking questions like this.

[SaberMaxwell]

This is actually not true, both SMN and SCH physicks are different spell instances, as one can check in the Garlandtools website.

In fact, they purposedly created a SMN physick scaling with MND back in Stormblood while the previous one remained the SCH's one. I know that because I remember when I changed to SMN back then the Physick spell was greyed out (as in removed) and I had to drag it again from the spellbook to my hotbars.

The reason why Physick scales with MND seems to be an actual choice rather than a consequence of something.

Yes, they are now. They weren't always. Though it is definitely a choice they're making at this point: a choice to be actively lazy about fixing problems they themselves created years ago.

[SieyaM]

SMN Physik could easily be upgraded to something Phoenix themed if they felt the need to stay on brand for the job even though that wouldn't be until level 71-80. It would still give it some kind of use or relevance to the job other than being this strange vestige.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

Rydia is the iconic summoner and her progression mirrors this. She can cast some white magic as a kid, but stops and only does black magic and summons when she comes back as an adult. Maybe this is intentional since summoners really only have access to Physik because they share the Arcanist roots with Scholar.

This whole thread stinks of, “gib buff” nonsense.

[LilimoLimomo]

This whole thread stinks of, “gib buff” nonsense.

To lay my cards on the table, I don't care whether they make Summoner's healing better or not; my primary interest in asking this question was to determine whether the game's UI/UX made it transparent why the heal was weaker. It sounds like it doesn't, which is a shame because that kind of obfuscation only serves to confuse players.

[Cabalabob]

Rydia is the iconic summoner and her progression mirrors this. She can cast some white magic as a kid, but stops and only does black magic and summons when she comes back as an adult. Maybe this is intentional since summoners really only have access to Physik because they share the Arcanist roots with Scholar.

This whole thread stinks of, “gib buff” nonsense.

So much wrong with this.

Rydia is not the “iconic summoner” there have been multiple summoners in the FF series including Yuna, Eiko and Garnet (all healer/support characters).

Summoner does indeed only have physick because it shares it with scholar. But it shares it through their base class of arcanist, there is no reason for summoner’s base class healing spell to get weaker as they grow as a dps any more than there is for scholar’s base class offensive spells to get weaker as they grow as a healer.

Finally, the OP didn’t ask for buffs (which they could have because it’s not an unreasonable request for the only skill in the game that works this way to be brought in line and is something that has been asked for since Heavensward), they didn’t even imply they wanted buffs. They simply asked if there was a reason or even an explanation in game as to why it worked that way (the answer being there is no good reason or explanation).