I miss HW

[Supersnow845]

^ a ren post I 100% totally agree with and also very well written

I agree that the fall of dalamud can’t be repeated because it was meant to cap off a dying game so it was a situation that EW was never really going to achieve and it’s why I don’t dock that many points from EW (on the other hand I do dock points from EW for being wholly inferior to kholusia). The way it capped off the dying game though was fantastic and I’m truly sad that most modern players will only know it as the failure of legacy and that weird but of janky nael lore they do in second coil

As for coil I agree, coils is easily the raid that had the best feel of space in the game and it isn’t even remotely close, take like T8 for example; you just killed a whole bunch of mobs on the way to melusine in T7 and then you descend down, you make it to the main deck and alisae is horrified to see the same hallways full of monsters from T7 reaching all the way out of sight back up towards the upper levels; it felt claustrophobic, dangerous and that you were trapped with no way to go but down

If people don’t want the T1 style dungeon raid back that’s fine but please attempt to return the feeling of space that coils had that made everything feel so dangerous and threatening, I feel like T8 was a good middle ground in this sense

[OliverQ]

Do the Devs actually read these threads and take notice of what people have issue with? I feel like no matter how much people complain, they're not going to change things.

[Supersnow845]

Something like T2 holds up in its pre fight exploration (I guess since the enrage cast starts when you pull the first node like A6 it’s technically all the boss but eh), T2’s only weakness is that killing the node that taught allagen rot gave the boss such an OP ability you had no choice but to kill the rot node which limited the choose your own path somewhat

I would say with criterion the best middle ground would be take T1, keep the door boss mostly the same (it was a legit interesting boss with week 1 gear) replace the T1 trash with criterion trash then leave the boss as is, 1 raid 3 distinct prog points each one of those three could give one of the three items we usually attribute to floor 1, 8 could be redesigned that you need to kill 2 ADS nodes and their spawned trash to unlock the door to avatar but the nodes you fight all have different patterns and you can choose where you engage and which nodes that will entail and how long your “enrage” is till a third node enters the space and makes the fight harder

3 I agree without a boss is a pointless instance: 3 should have just been 4’s pre boss trash but otherwise I think the original design of coils could be modernised and it would be better than what we have now, most of the problems with coils, like how 10 is cheesable by having a NIN sneak past the trash to open the shortcut is just things that could be blocked from working

Fausts were just bad because they were boring as hell, like what A1’s Faust just stood there and tankbustered getting slowly stronger, A5’s you killed one that was a clone of 1 and you got…..2 more that were also clones of 1, 9’s was kinda okay but 9 was the best and still weaker as a fight than T1’s doorboss