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  1. #11
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    FF games have a long history of mini games like this. Nothing unusual here.

    Personally… Playing assassins creed black flag (the pirates one), and I think FFXIV could do well to incorporate/refine their systems to have more meat, like eavesdropping a conversation (have to stay within a radius while also avoiding line of site, but there is a better visual indicator of where you can/can’t be, and there is a timer allowing for missteps like being out of radius, being seen or not being able to see your target, etc).

    If they ever got off their butts to refine the physics engine and allow actual jumping, we could also utilize more 3D spaces for parkour etc.

    Seeing as how a significant chunk of dev time is going towards a graphics update, and 6.0 used a bit to rework old zones for flying.. I really hope a new physics engine and proper jumping puzzles is somewhere on their list,,,
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    Last edited by kaynide; 08-23-2023 at 09:08 AM.

  2. #12
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    Tahbitha El'wynn
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    The "follow the NPC" quests in FF XIV are very much times better than one in the Desmond Miles-era Assassin's creed games, IMHO. I remember failing those over and over again while trying to 100% complete them.

    If I could change one thing about the questing experience in FF XIV, I'd make it to where we can use our linkpearls to communicate with folks rather than physically teleport all over the place just to talk to someone and then teleport back to where we started.
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  3. #13
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    These were terrible on the release of EW, but they've been patched to be less annoying, now they're just reskins of the usual "go to x and right click it"
    I don't remember any of them other than In From The Cold being patched.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tahbitha View Post
    If I could change one thing about the questing experience in FF XIV, I'd make it to where we can use our linkpearls to communicate with folks rather than physically teleport all over the place just to talk to someone and then teleport back to where we started.
    If they do that, then they may as well just give us mobile magitek phones and fly the Ragnarok everywhere. It's a fantasy game and they are trying to keep it to the "travel by chocobo-and-cart", "use bows and swords and magic" that is usually associated with fantasy, and keep the technology to a minimum as some sort of fringe thing that only an enemy way up North is mostly using, and occasionally Cid.

    I've noticed that linkshells are rarely used except when you're in relatively close proximity (such as all in Thanalan, all in La Noscea, or all in Coerthas), so I tend to think of them as walkie talkies (which have limited range) rather than mobile phones.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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  4. #14
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    While they did overuse the following thing in Endwalker cause SE likes to play with their new toys, I enjoy both of those.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    FF games have a long history of mini games like this. Nothing unusual here.

    Personally… Playing assassins creed black flag (the pirates one), and I think FFXIV could do well to incorporate/refine their systems to have more meat, like eavesdropping a conversation (have to say within a radius while also avoiding line of site, but there is a better visual indicator of where you can/can’t be, and there is a timer allowing for missteps (being out of radius, being seen or not being able to see your target, etc).

    If they ever got off their butts to refine the physics engine and allow actual jumping, we could also utilize more 3D spaces for parkour etc.

    Seeing as how a significant chunk of dev time is going towards a graphics update, and 6.0 used a bit to rework old zones for flying.. I really hope a new physics engine and proper jumping puzzles is somewhere on their list,,,
    As an AC fan since the beginning I'd love to see them crib some elements. Haha, though probably not tailing from Black Flag. That one is pretty notorious in the community, though half the time we had to do it on a boat and that was all kinds of irritation. The old eavesdrop missions to get information about your target would be a lot of fun, though. Instead of Thancred getting to go be the sneaky sneak all the time, we could get a turn at it ourselves.
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  6. #16
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    Khloe Lafihna
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    while they are not very great, its breaks the monotony of go here and here and here. I just wish the tailing the npc was like in a crowd or something because its a bit ridiculous to be walking in a open field with one tree and they look around and they look around and ou are out 1 malm from the game line of sight XD
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  7. #17
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Nah, we need more variation on quest types instead of the over used "do my grocery shopping", "talk to my cousin", "punch a grizzly bear" quests.
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    X'lota Qi
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    I like the sniping quests. The following quests need work.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Tahbitha El'wynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I don't remember any of them other than In From The Cold being patched.

    If they do that, then they may as well just give us mobile magitek phones and fly the Ragnarok everywhere. It's a fantasy game and they are trying to keep it to the "travel by chocobo-and-cart", "use bows and swords and magic" that is usually associated with fantasy, and keep the technology to a minimum as some sort of fringe thing that only an enemy way up North is mostly using, and occasionally Cid.
    I get where you're coming from. Maybe I could have worded it a bit more clearly, that's on me. I guess what I am saying is that I find it annoying having to make what I feel are pointless teleport jumps all over the world that don't really seem to do anything other than pad things out. You make a good point about over-reliance on linkpearls. Maybe just rewriting some of these quests to cut out the "filler" steps that don't really advance the plot.
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    Saika Kinoshita
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    patch the follow the npc quests so that nin can cheese them with hide.
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