How is this NOT harrasment/griefing?

[Yves]

I'll just counter that with the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Thanks for playing though.

You are talking about utilitarianism. According to Bentham, "what ought be done is whatever maximizes overall utility." This is to conduct, in his words, "hedonistic calculus."

This is not an acceptable argument on the basis that the Tuskagee experiment meets your maxim. By this methodology you shouldn't even be playing this game since the needs of the many, on global scale, outweigh your need for the pleasure derived from a videogame. Instead you should trying to figure out to break the Monsanto formula.

If you are going to try to argue intellectually try using something a little less elementary than Bentham.

[nasomi]

I'll just counter that with the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Thanks for playing though.

But that few is bigger than you, and there's nothing you can do about it. Best you can do is not do the same when the tables are turned.

[Invalice_Vangaurd]

I'll just counter that with the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Thanks for playing though.

Are you serious right now?

[seuki]

I'll just counter that with the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Thanks for playing though.

In this case the few have the power and those with power don't really give a crap unless they are the courteous ones. SE can't/won't do anything because of the achievements set in place so tough luck unless they either get rid of those achievements or make behest an instance like Ifrit. Seriously, people only do it for achievements which is a goal, just like leveling up.

[rina_inverse]

Someday you will be doing the same thing
What will you do then

[Kensaki]

Why would I ever want to ruin other people's experience Rina_inverse? Sorry that's not how I do things. But yeah I see this is going nowhere so I'll just stop. Bye people.

[Yves]

Why would I ever want to ruin other people's experience Rina_inverse? Sorry that's not how I do things. But yeah I see this is going nowhere so I'll just stop. Bye people.

It was going nowhere when you presented an illogical thought process as your defense. To add to this you accused those who disagree with you as being irrational and then further tried to counter your point with more irrational justification. In reality, based on what I can see, it was going nowhere the second it entered your head.

[AlexNiculaie]

You ignorant fool!
Someday you will doing the behest achievement!
What will you do, then?!?!?

Oh, I don't know, actually work to help the other people, earning my achievement at the same time. Mind blowing, I'm sure.

[rina_inverse]

Oh, I don't know, actually work to help the other people, earning my achievement at the same time. Mind blowing, I'm sure.

People just dont get sarcasm, eh

[Cynthis]

Someday you will be doing the same thing
What will you do then

What most of us are doing, let those that can get XP claim and then kill for them. They get XP, I get achievement. Win/win. I may cost me 30 seconds but that's a small price to pay.