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  1. #51
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    Discount Hrothgar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    It doesnt work that way, the game has to actually copy your character over to the other DC, so that's never going to happen, there is a good reason why you have to log off to initiate a dc travel to a diff DC.

    Also if you think people are quitting the game because of this... I invite you to look at Aether and how full of wanderers and travelers it is, people dont care, they just DC travel there to do stuff.
    *from inside a thread of people that care* "People don't care."
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  2. #52
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    Laura Hallowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    *from inside a thread of people that care* "People don't care."
    People that care =/ people quitting, also as I just mentioned, Aether is SWARMED with travelers and wanderers, so obviously they dont mind, and the technical standpoint stays, it wouldnt be doable because you have to actually log off to DC travel.
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    Olyvar Queen
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    I've been debating whether to transfer my Dynamis character over to Aether just because Dynamis is so insanely dead. Couldn't even get a Trial roulette last night it was taking so long. I was gonna hold out until 7.0 hoping Dynamis gets a big boost then, but I'm not confident it will.
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  4. #54
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    Howdy Meowdy
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverQ View Post
    I've been debating whether to transfer my Dynamis character over to Aether just because Dynamis is so insanely dead. Couldn't even get a Trial roulette last night it was taking so long. I was gonna hold out until 7.0 hoping Dynamis gets a big boost then, but I'm not confident it will.
    Dynamis has passed some hidden threshold where it's gotten so empty people don't even attempt to queue anymore. I was queueing some stuff like main scenario and had to wait over an hour as well last night. You know it's bad when even praetorium has run dry.

    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    Also if you think people are quitting the game because of this... I invite you to look at Aether and how full of wanderers and travelers it is, people dont care, they just DC travel there to do stuff.
    The kind of person I'm highlighting are the ones who just started playing for the first time and don't know the UI or that there's some menu gymnastics they need to do at the login.

    Quote Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie View Post
    Even for people who don't think DCs being empty is a problem for themselves, I can guarantee you sprouts are quitting this game, as it's extremely unintuitive in its current iteration. Most people have first time impressions and don't know squat nor want to figure it out.
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    Last edited by SquishyPlushie; 08-27-2023 at 03:05 AM.

  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    People that care =/ people quitting, also as I just mentioned, Aether is SWARMED with travelers and wanderers, so obviously they dont mind, and the technical standpoint stays, it wouldnt be doable because you have to actually log off to DC travel.
    "Okay, so maybe people care, just not enough to stop doing the thing. Also, they haven't stopped doing the thing, so obviously they don't care." Without even a hint of self-awareness.

    Aether is full of people from other data centers because people from other data centers have to go to Aether to play the game, whether they want to or not. They can't stop doing it, so the way to know if they care is to look at feedback they provide. And what do you know, here we are.
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  6. #56
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    Khloe Stardew
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    DF is healthy on Primal and I have no problems queuing on a variety of roles and getting diverse duties. PF has suffered a lot though thanks to comments like yours. When Dynamis was created: everyone started saying if you want to raid go to Aether. Why just Aether? Primal had a healthy PF too at that time.
    from my understanding, Aether particularly Gilgamesh has been know as the hardcore raiding scene in raids and just plain old DF and roulette before cross DC travel was implemented. I know gilgamesh was pretty hardcore before world and DC travel. I don't like cross dc travel but i use it when necessary. I do feel bad for dynamis, there is no sense of community like aether, cyrstal, primal has because of the cross DC travel.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMisato View Post
    from my understanding, Aether particularly Gilgamesh has been know as the hardcore raiding scene in raids and just plain old DF and roulette before cross DC travel was implemented. I know gilgamesh was pretty hardcore before world and DC travel. I don't like cross dc travel but i use it when necessary. I do feel bad for dynamis, there is no sense of community like aether, cyrstal, primal has because of the cross DC travel.
    Some sprouts are quitting as they can't even complete crystal tower on Dynamis. Quite a few new players are unaware of DC travel or are not invested enough to bother, so they find a different game to play.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    Aether is full of people from other data centers because people from other data centers have to go to Aether to play the game, whether they want to or not. They can't stop doing it, so the way to know if they care is to look at feedback they provide. And what do you know, here we are.
    Except they don't have to go to Aether. They do it because others have said "just go to Aether" and they're mindlessly doing what others have told them to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie View Post
    Some sprouts are quitting as they can't even complete crystal tower on Dynamis. Quite a few new players are unaware of DC travel or are not invested enough to bother, so they find a different game to play.
    Alliance raids are the one big sticking point for Dynamis from a new player perspective. I know that NN does suggest DC travel to those trying to queue for it but I don't know how many sprouts are joining NN in the first place.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 08-27-2023 at 01:03 PM.

  9. #59
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    Belazarus Whitewing
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    I've personally got no problem with having to go through the data centre transfer process, in order to find groups in party finder. That in itself is fine, only takes a few seconds, that itself is not really the issue for me though.

    The main problem I've found is that it effectively cuts us off from our friends & FC on our home server For end game players, a LOT of their time is spent in party finder, finding practice groups etc for endgame content. For those of us who are on the "dead" data centres, it means we have to spend a big chunk of our gaming time, disconnected from our FC & friends, which honestly, really sucks. I do hope they find a solution to this unexpected issue.

    The obvious great solution would be to somehow make Party Finder cross-data centre, or like someone else said, make it possible to view the other data centres PF list whilst still in our own data centre, and only actually "travel" over at the point the group queues in. But of course that sounds like a pretty tough technical task.

    Alternatively, if there was a way to remove the limitations (such as still being able to access your FC chat / FC house / Friends List etc from the other data centre - but I realize how unlikely that is).

    I hope everyone can continue to share ideas, suggestions & solutions, in a positive, respectful & constructive way, as I believe was the intention of this thread. So that Square Enix can read our ideas, and hopefully find something that is feasible and works for everyone. Fingers crossed!
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  10. #60
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    Sirk Raven
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    Maduin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie View Post
    Dynamis has passed some hidden threshold where it's gotten so empty people don't even attempt to queue anymore. I was queueing some stuff like main scenario and had to wait over an hour as well last night. You know it's bad when even praetorium has run dry.
    Yet on Maduin I got 98 tomes in a few hours including taking breaks to cook dinner/lunch for today and wash clothes. Course I was queuing at like 6pm CST so depending on how late yes it might be affected.
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