Solution for dead party finders due to DC travel.

[Amh_Wilzuun]

As we all know, DC travel had the side effect of essentially killing the party finders for certain DCs and made it harder fornnewer DCs to build a party finder culture. To prevent all groups going to Aether/etc, the devs should maybe think out of the box since cross DC PF might not be feasible for who knows how long.

We can’t undo DC travel at this point since that’s not a feature you can walk back, but what they can do is make some design changes that might alleviate the issues. There should be some sort of incentive or bonus to making/joining a PF on your own DC. What that bonus is I’m not sure, that’s not my job to figure out, but there are other things like this in FFXIV like the adventurer in need bonus, the first timer bonus, the damage/LB buff to not stacking roles, etc. It just can’t be done in a way where people who want to raid with friends on another DC are punished, same way the first time bonus doesn’t hurt people running a dungeon with people who have all already cleared it.

Just do something please, I’m tired of Primal PF being dead, even EX is sparse now. I don’t want to have to go to another DC and not have access to my retainer or FC chat.

[Remish]

I think the devs current plan is to allow for cross DC duty finders but haven't decided how they wish to proceed with it. They may eventually do cross DC PF as well but that's probably way harder to implement if at all.

[MsMisato]

I think the devs current plan is to allow for cross DC duty finders but haven't decided how they wish to proceed with it. They may eventually do cross DC PF as well but that's probably way harder to implement if at all.

I will be happy even if they hadd cross region Duty roulette.

[SquishyPlushie]

I feel like if they can't do cross-DC duty finder, they should do the next best thing.

Which is integrate DC travel into a one click option in the duty finder that moves you in/out of the optimal DC for queue filling.

Even for people who don't think DCs being empty is a problem for themselves, I can guarantee you sprouts are quitting this game, as it's extremely unintuitive in its current iteration. Most people have first time impressions and don't know squat nor want to figure it out.

[SophiaDL]

I feel like if they can't do cross-DC duty finder, they should do the next best thing.

Which is integrate DC travel into a one click option in the duty finder that moves you in/out of the optimal DC for queue filling.

Even for people who don't think DCs being empty is a problem for themselves, I can guarantee you sprouts are quitting this game, as it's extremely unintuitive in its current iteration. Most people have first time impressions and don't know squat nor want to figure it out.

It doesnt work that way, the game has to actually copy your character over to the other DC, so that's never going to happen, there is a good reason why you have to log off to initiate a dc travel to a diff DC.

Also if you think people are quitting the game because of this... I invite you to look at Aether and how full of wanderers and travelers it is, people dont care, they just DC travel there to do stuff.

[vetch]

It doesnt work that way, the game has to actually copy your character over to the other DC, so that's never going to happen, there is a good reason why you have to log off to initiate a dc travel to a diff DC.

Also if you think people are quitting the game because of this... I invite you to look at Aether and how full of wanderers and travelers it is, people dont care, they just DC travel there to do stuff.

*from inside a thread of people that care* "People don't care."

[LianaThorne]

As we all know, DC travel had the side effect of essentially killing the party finders for certain DCs and made it harder fornnewer DCs to build a party finder culture. To prevent all groups going to Aether/etc, the devs should maybe think out of the box since cross DC PF might not be feasible for who knows how long.

We can’t undo DC travel at this point since that’s not a feature you can walk back, but what they can do is make some design changes that might alleviate the issues. There should be some sort of incentive or bonus to making/joining a PF on your own DC. What that bonus is I’m not sure, that’s not my job to figure out, but there are other things like this in FFXIV like the adventurer in need bonus, the first timer bonus, the damage/LB buff to not stacking roles, etc. It just can’t be done in a way where people who want to raid with friends on another DC are punished, same way the first time bonus doesn’t hurt people running a dungeon with people who have all already cleared it.

Just do something please, I’m tired of Primal PF being dead, even EX is sparse now. I don’t want to have to go to another DC and not have access to my retainer or FC chat.

Maybe now people will stop referring to it as a Dynamis problem and realize it's not. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is what happens when the community decides to make one DC (Aether) a hub for everything instead of trying to populate their own DC.

[Aravell]

There's no need for any incentives, the only thing SE needs to do is to block players from forming a party when not on their home DC. Players can still play with friends because the friend that they're visiting can form the party. If players cannot form a party on a DC they traveled to, most players will likely get tired of waiting for Aether natives to create a party that they can join, so they'll go back home to their own DC and make their own party.

[LianaThorne]

There's no need for any incentives, the only thing SE needs to do is to block players from forming a party when not on their home DC. Players can still play with friends because the friend that they're visiting can form the party. If players cannot form a party on a DC they traveled to, most players will likely get tired of waiting for Aether natives to create a party that they can join, so they'll go back home to their own DC and make their own party.

They're gonna need to provide some incentive for people to not go the easy route/stick to their adjusted habit. Otherwise it will just be loopholed. For example, I am a mentor so I automatically have NN access on any server I go to. I could easily just go in there and pay someone to host it for me since most people will do anything for gil. Therefore, creating an opportunity for Aether natives to profit off of members from the other DCs (pay me for quick access or go back to your home DC and wait).

Should provide some form of buff to what you receive from roulettes in your home DC, otherwise nothing is really gonna change unless we get cross-DC queues so people can actually stay on their DC and still get content done.

[Aravell]

They're gonna need to provide some incentive for people to not go the easy route/stick to their adjusted habit. Otherwise it will just be loopholed. For example, I am a mentor so I automatically have NN access on any server I go to. I could easily just go in there and pay someone to host it for me since most people will do anything for gil. Therefore, creating an opportunity for Aether natives to profit off of members from the other DCs (pay me for quick access or go back to your home DC and wait).

Except that wouldn't work. You can pay someone to recruit for you, but after the party fills and the person leaves, you're stuck with 7/8 because you cannot put up a PF or invite anyone since you can't form a party.