Solution for dead party finders due to DC travel.

[Amh_Wilzuun]

As we all know, DC travel had the side effect of essentially killing the party finders for certain DCs and made it harder fornnewer DCs to build a party finder culture. To prevent all groups going to Aether/etc, the devs should maybe think out of the box since cross DC PF might not be feasible for who knows how long.

We can’t undo DC travel at this point since that’s not a feature you can walk back, but what they can do is make some design changes that might alleviate the issues. There should be some sort of incentive or bonus to making/joining a PF on your own DC. What that bonus is I’m not sure, that’s not my job to figure out, but there are other things like this in FFXIV like the adventurer in need bonus, the first timer bonus, the damage/LB buff to not stacking roles, etc. It just can’t be done in a way where people who want to raid with friends on another DC are punished, same way the first time bonus doesn’t hurt people running a dungeon with people who have all already cleared it.

Just do something please, I’m tired of Primal PF being dead, even EX is sparse now. I don’t want to have to go to another DC and not have access to my retainer or FC chat.

[Remish]

I think the devs current plan is to allow for cross DC duty finders but haven't decided how they wish to proceed with it. They may eventually do cross DC PF as well but that's probably way harder to implement if at all.

[LianaThorne]

As we all know, DC travel had the side effect of essentially killing the party finders for certain DCs and made it harder fornnewer DCs to build a party finder culture. To prevent all groups going to Aether/etc, the devs should maybe think out of the box since cross DC PF might not be feasible for who knows how long.

We can’t undo DC travel at this point since that’s not a feature you can walk back, but what they can do is make some design changes that might alleviate the issues. There should be some sort of incentive or bonus to making/joining a PF on your own DC. What that bonus is I’m not sure, that’s not my job to figure out, but there are other things like this in FFXIV like the adventurer in need bonus, the first timer bonus, the damage/LB buff to not stacking roles, etc. It just can’t be done in a way where people who want to raid with friends on another DC are punished, same way the first time bonus doesn’t hurt people running a dungeon with people who have all already cleared it.

Just do something please, I’m tired of Primal PF being dead, even EX is sparse now. I don’t want to have to go to another DC and not have access to my retainer or FC chat.

Maybe now people will stop referring to it as a Dynamis problem and realize it's not. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is what happens when the community decides to make one DC (Aether) a hub for everything instead of trying to populate their own DC.

[Aravell]

There's no need for any incentives, the only thing SE needs to do is to block players from forming a party when not on their home DC. Players can still play with friends because the friend that they're visiting can form the party. If players cannot form a party on a DC they traveled to, most players will likely get tired of waiting for Aether natives to create a party that they can join, so they'll go back home to their own DC and make their own party.

[LianaThorne]

There's no need for any incentives, the only thing SE needs to do is to block players from forming a party when not on their home DC. Players can still play with friends because the friend that they're visiting can form the party. If players cannot form a party on a DC they traveled to, most players will likely get tired of waiting for Aether natives to create a party that they can join, so they'll go back home to their own DC and make their own party.

They're gonna need to provide some incentive for people to not go the easy route/stick to their adjusted habit. Otherwise it will just be loopholed. For example, I am a mentor so I automatically have NN access on any server I go to. I could easily just go in there and pay someone to host it for me since most people will do anything for gil. Therefore, creating an opportunity for Aether natives to profit off of members from the other DCs (pay me for quick access or go back to your home DC and wait).

Should provide some form of buff to what you receive from roulettes in your home DC, otherwise nothing is really gonna change unless we get cross-DC queues so people can actually stay on their DC and still get content done.

[SophiaDL]

DC travel was a mistake, well not per say, but the players made it a mistake by all flocking to one datacenter on each region (Aether for NA, Light for EU) leaving the other DC's barren of parties.

I am the first one to bash this company because I think it does a million mistakes, but this one is on the players, the only way to fix it is to either remove DC travel or open it all together even to other regions (which would be a disaster, especially for JP as they hate other communities)

[Aravell]

They're gonna need to provide some incentive for people to not go the easy route/stick to their adjusted habit. Otherwise it will just be loopholed. For example, I am a mentor so I automatically have NN access on any server I go to. I could easily just go in there and pay someone to host it for me since most people will do anything for gil. Therefore, creating an opportunity for Aether natives to profit off of members from the other DCs (pay me for quick access or go back to your home DC and wait).

Except that wouldn't work. You can pay someone to recruit for you, but after the party fills and the person leaves, you're stuck with 7/8 because you cannot put up a PF or invite anyone since you can't form a party.

[LianaThorne]

Except that wouldn't work. You can pay someone to recruit for you, but after the party fills and the person leaves, you're stuck with 7/8 because you cannot put up a PF or invite anyone since you can't form a party.

That's why you pay them to host...like I said. That means they stay until the content has been run and they get paid afterwards. Just like any other gig you'd do for side money. If they leave early then it's more money for the next person who gets them through it. No harm no foul.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

I never use PF. I just do the Duty Finder, usually a Roulette…

[SophiaDL]

I never use PF. I just do the Duty Finder, usually a Roulette…

Good for you, some people actually want something a tiny bit more challenging than being afk in roulettes spamming 1-1-1-1-1-1 (or full afk if you're a healer)