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    Suggestion - Official mods from SE

    I think a lot of people here know, that the mod community has grown very big meanwhile. And that plugins like Mare (to see each other modded ) get more and more active players.
    In my opinion it's time to do something. But in a good way without attacking the modders.

    I had the idea that SE could implement something similar like this Mare into the game in general, for all players. (with an on/off option) Maybe as some kind of addon for everyone on console.

    Modders can do all the stuff because they don't have to care that it fits somehow with everything else existing in the game. And SE could make a little modding team, that offers content, that is similar to the mods now.
    Items/hair/skinpaints/character customization/and so on, that are special, but do not fit with everything in the game. So they could offer all the players much much more. Less people would choose illegal mods, if there would be legal ones.
    And console players would be included.

    These items could have a small(!) price or maybe they could make another subscription-version 1-2€ more, and all mod-items included for free.

    I don't know if this is possible, but I thought it could be a good idea.
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    Last edited by Heavenchild; 08-18-2023 at 07:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    I think a lot of people here know, that the mod community has grown very big meanwhile. And that plugins like Mare (to see each other modded ) get more and more active players.
    In my opinion it's time to do something. But in a good way without attacking the modders.

    I had the idea that SE could implement something similar like this Mare into the game in general, for all players. (with an on/off option) Maybe as some kind of addon for everyone on console.

    Modders can do all the stuff because they don't have to care that it fits somehow with everything else existing in the game. And SE could make a little modding team, that offers content, that is similar to the mods now.
    Items/hair/skinpaints/and so on, that are special, but do not fit with everything in the game. So they could offer all the players much much more. Less people would choose illegal mods, if there would be legal ones.
    And console players would be included.

    These items could have a small(!) price or maybe they could make another subscription-version 1-2€ more, and all mod-items included for free.

    I don't know if this is possible, but I thought it could be a good idea.
    This makes no sense. If SE does mods they aren't mods, they are original content. mods are third party content, SE cannot be a third party of itself.

    Perhaps you are asking SE to make their game open source and commit to that. But I doubt thats the kind of thing they would do.
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    Why can't a company offer mods (mod=modification)? There is no rule that mods 'have to be' 3rd party.
    The point is, that actual 3rd party modcontent has not the same quality (fits not with everything else) like original content and SE could offer stuff in modding quality and a simliar way like mods work now.
    So they could offer much much more and console players would be included.
    And maybe less players would use 3rd party stuff.
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    Last edited by Heavenchild; 08-18-2023 at 08:12 AM.
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    A company will shy away from developing and maintaining mods, because they will then have to make sure every single addition / updates to the game will also have to consider all of the mods.
    As long as the responsibility to maintain these mods are with users, companies like Square-Enix don't have to maintain their own cadre of programmers / project managers, etc to maintain all of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    Why can't a company offer mods (mod=modification)? There is no rule that mods 'have to be' 3rd party.
    The point is, that actual 3rd party modcontent has not the same quality (fits not with everything else) like original content and SE could offer stuff in modding quality and a simliar way like mods work now.
    So they could offer much much more and console players would be included.
    And maybe less players would use 3rd party stuff.
    No, they already get enough money and this wouldnt come out free.
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    Mods are third-party modification; Modifications made a game's dev team is just a feature. (๑❛ꇳ❛๑)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_of_Ebina View Post
    A company will shy away from developing and maintaining mods, because they will then have to make sure every single addition / updates to the game will also have to consider all of the mods.
    As long as the responsibility to maintain these mods are with users, companies like Square-Enix don't have to maintain their own cadre of programmers / project managers, etc to maintain all of those.
    Mmh yes, I did not thought about that. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosaliaDLB View Post
    No, they already get enough money and this wouldnt come out free.
    Of course not for free. I also talked about ways how it could be funded.
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    So, we go from Pay for Cosmetics and Pay for Convenience... to Pay for an Effective UI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    So, we go from Pay for Cosmetics and Pay for Convenience... to Pay for an Effective UI?
    When they would make a new team and hire people especially for this, so this people must get paid, too.
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