Stop with the FOMO

[Ranaku]

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I have the complete opposite opinion, give me more FOMO! I want unique stuff nobody gets after it is over.

A big part of an MMO is showing the stuff you have off, at least it is to the asian players. It's why we have housing wards instead of instanced solo housing. It's why we have FOMO stuff. And i feel like SE is balancing it very well, in other asian and especially korean MMOs (And Blizzard games lol) you have cashshop FOMO which SE never indulged in.

[SophiaDL]

Has the idea of being responsible with your money and not overspending on things that, I don't know, might not be exactly needed to enjoy the game crossed your mind?

Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of issues with the cash shop, I think emotes, furnishing and dyes shouldn't be there at all, but comparing it to EA when the easy solution it's simply not paying extra seems a bit of a stretch.

I mean it's the same for EA though ? Just dont pay

if you go down that route then it's the exact same thing, you dont have to pay in either cases

[Renathras]

This of course speaking only from 2.0 onward.

Why?

Why shouldn't someone who's been playing from 3.1 have something they can say they got that is no longer obtainable?

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Why?

Why shouldn't someone who's been playing from 3.1 have something they can say they got that is no longer obtainable?

Mostly because:

Personal Collecting.
Game is not real life. There is really no reason to have rewards "go away" like at all.

Those rewards do not get value for being limited or exclusive, if anything, that devaluates them.

Like the PvP mounts which are right now on accounts with: Cheaters, people that purchased accounts, abandoned/banned accounts, etc.
Even if you acertain (cannot prove) you got your through legitimate effort (which DO give value to something) still you share you reward with several of the above. Thus your reward is actually being devaluated by a badly design reward system.

If those mounts were still aviable to top rankers of PvP, it would be more common? maybe, but it's value would come from actual, constant, competitiveness.

Even more, im all for a Special Reward sections, where those kind of rewards land, but only unlock if you manage to get, and then stay, in a certain ranked position. That again would break the "one time only" but would make it so, the only way to have those rewards, is by being, right now, actually top in the competition. At the end of every season the games check your position, if you 101. The Special Rewards greyout till you score 100 top again.

But the reward would be there.
For you to even have a chance to fight for it.

And being extremely honest, there is no "achievement" that a player cannot truly mod into their game, even if it's for something as banal as taking a screenshot.
Then seasonal and cross events should be recurrent, all players should have the chance to go through previous years events and even more, go IN ORDER, maybe that way events once more become exciting moments on the seasons and not... Whatever is what we are getting now.

They once had actual plotlines, interesting events.

There is really no reason to limit the rewards on the game like this, unless you want to insert FOMO.

Which is terribly contradictory with the "philosophical stance" on a game supposedly designed for you to "just take breaks and play something else." There is a lot someone can lose by doing this.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

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So you support predatory design practices on neurodivergent people and cashing out on people with Hikikomori/NEETs as if it was a healthy, ethical practice.

Ok.

[Iscah]

So you support predatory design practices on neurodivergent people

Please don't equate neurodivergent with manipulatable or guaranteed to be addicted to these things, or the only type of people to be addicted to these things.

It's predatory design practices on everyone.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Please don't equate neurodivergent with manipulatable or guaranteed to be addicted to these things, or the only type of people to be addicted to these things.

It's predatory design practices on everyone.

Sorry. But also is PARTICULARY effective on neurodivergent people.

Though enters more on other debate, about microtransactions.

[Jojoya]

Why?

Why shouldn't someone who's been playing from 3.1 have something they can say they got that is no longer obtainable?

Why is it important to have things that are no longer obtainable?

It's a double-edged sword. On one hand, you have those who like having exclusives. On the other hand, you have those who won't bother playing a game if they don't have the chance to get the items they liked because they were exclusives.

Which route is going to make a business more profit?

[kaynide]

Honestly, people complain there aren’t enough veteran rewards…but the event items are in a way these rewards. I have almost every event item only because I’ve been playing so long.

That said, I do think there is room for allowing new players access to old items for free or using in game currency, especially the veteran tokens. Even more-so if it’s a limited thing (like pick any 1 old moonfire faire item you want for free, once per year, during each moonfire faire)

[Sunhwapark]

I'm just glad we don't have the cycling outfit rotations like bdo/bns/mabinogi heroes, mostly because I don't wanna wait x months for an outfit to potentially re-appear on the cycle.
Though, I guess they at least let you buy it with in-game currency from others sometimes.