The new Nomura?

[TheNight]

seriously trying to say that FFXVI didn't sold systems when it theoretically sold around 3 million PS5s

This is about the most delusional take on the forums this week. Congratulations.

[TheNight]

38m is the number of PS5 sold to this day. That said, it did sell 19.1 million on 2022-2023 fiscal year (yeah, about half of its total sales), which ended in march 2023. And it's the year of the end of the lack of semiconductors and GoW: Ragnarok and its 11 millions sales. No infos for Q2 has been released (which is when FFXVI has been released).

GoW Ragnarok shames FF16. Ragnarok was an actual good game worthy of being called a PS5 exclusive. FF16 is not.

I'm glad that the sales reflect the wide disparity in quality between the two games.

[Renalt]

Never liked Nomura. Always hellbent on trying to make villains who aren't really villains. Take Organization 13? Was any of them ACTUALLY a villain after it was all said and done? I vaguely remember they all have some sort of "You should feel sorry for me" arc. Ascians? They are practically a straight rip of Organization 13. As soon as I saw those coats I knew there was going to be "Ok but they have a reason to be jerks and you should pity them". It pretty much ended exactly like that.

Frankly I'm glad the Ascians are done and over with. As much as I disliked Xenos at first...I rather have more like him than more like the Ascians.

[Shinkuno]

At least Nomura games are fun to play and not just there to afk in

[CStrife912]

Nomura is someone with great ideas but can't execute them or he needs someone else to reign him in...similar to Hideo Kojima (love the guy but he needs someone to just tell him no sometimes) 15 took so long cause of his indecisions....KH3 was a mess or just spamming darkness darkness darkness loveless terms everywhere and it lost all meaning. FF7 remake while really good only really got there because his co-director stepped it and reigned it...now that said co-director is main directing part 2 because Nomura is now creative director...the man should of just stuck to drawing characters because at least they stood out the most lol.

Yoshi-P currently really only has 14 to his name he didn't direct 16 he only produced so its hard to compare them completely per say. I prefer Yoshis work so far to Nomura but not by much each talent they have is capable of mass screw up, however Yoshi has shown he will get the work done and his team are efficient under his leadership.....Nomura I think people just didn't want to say no to the guy or Nomura felt untouchable in some way. I just found that Toriyama is co-helping with 7 remake rebirth and that man directed the 13 trilogy...a cold chill down my spine lol.

[Atelier-Bagur]

This is about the most delusional take on the forums this week. Congratulations.

Unless you're forgetting, the game is only available on one platform. And last time I checked it's a platform that not many people owned.

[AwesomeJr44]

Unless you're forgetting, the game is only available on one platform. And last time I checked it's a platform that not many people owned.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Actually... In a recent event he didn't have that mask on. Apparently someone misplaced it or lost it so he did the event with I think it was a creepy looking leprechaun head on lol.

FF16 sold extremely well first week. Something to be expected as the first next gen FF mainline title and all the media hype. Sales basically tanked the week afterwards. Essentially to me this indicates a few things. Trends with AAA title releases in general has resulted in the majority of gamers no longer preordering titles and also no longer paying actual attention to reviews from published "games experts". They're waiting for the titles to get in the hands of actual gamers to see how the game actually is and then deciding if they want to play it or not. In the case of FFXVI you had people that still did decide to purchase it but at the same time a substantial amount of people that chose to skip it because it wasn't the next gen FF title they were waiting for. It wasn't a JRPG, hell it wasn't even an RPG. It was a carbon copied action game attempting to write itself as western fantasy with a FF wrapper on it. Hardly anything FF was kept aside from impressive visuals and music. Final Fantasy as a series is fairly well known with changes/innovations with in game battle systems and it has had it's fair share of hits and misses. However in 16's case it wasn't a matter of innovating and more a matter of just grabbing and using what an entirely different game had. Something that was somewhat familiar with this title as well as the ARR reboot was essentially trying to turn FFXIV into WoW without it looking like WoW. And to many FF16 has simply indicated that SE is willing to throw aside a longtime loyal fanbase of customers in order to chase after the possibility of a quicker buck.

We can criticize its lack of rpg elements but you can't fool anyone with trying to throw that tired old "they threw alongside their old fans".

Same people who said that when FFXV came, same people who said that when FFXIII came, same people who said that when FFXII came and same people said that when they did FFXI.

Can we please stop with the false fan base spokesperson about what FF is about? It's such a weak argument only used to try to validate your own biases.

[RitsukoSonoda]

We can criticize its lack of rpg elements but you can't fool anyone with trying to throw that tired old "they threw alongside their old fans".

Same people who said that when FFXV came, same people who said that when FFXIII came, same people who said that when FFXII came and same people said that when they did FFXI.

Can we please stop with the false fan base spokesperson about what FF is about? It's such a weak argument only used to try to validate your own biases.

You should really do something about that bad habit of yours where you resort to attempts and throwing mud at people when you can't articulate a proper counter argument.

[Atelier-Bagur]

You should really do something about that bad habit of yours where you resort to attempts and throwing mud at people when you can't articulate a proper counter argument.

For your information, I actually agree with most of your problems with FFXVI. Its only the last few sentences where you felt you had to justify it all that under a false pretense of the dumb "#NotMyFinalFantasy" movement that is permeating around.

Seriously, people are treating this whole thing as if its a political movement. Dont you see how stupid that is? Why cant it just be, "I didnt like this game"