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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    Healers shouldn't have to heal? In about 60% of the roulettes I join, I'm frantically trying to keep the tank alive, and I'm lucky if I have time to DPS at all.
    1. Depends on the dungeon you're synced into. As a general rule, trash pulls in leveling dungeon tend to require more healing than most capstone/all expert dungeons.
    2. Your tanks just don't mitigate and/or standing in red carpets. If you get these sort of tanks in leveling dungeon, then yes you're probably going to have a bad time.
    3. You're synced down to a level range where you don't have as many toolkits in reserve like in 90s. (I.e. one of the reason why Stone Vigil is notorious from healer's PoV)
    4. Improper use of toolkits.
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    SquishyPlushie's Avatar
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    Howdy Meowdy
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    Maduin
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    Sage Lv 90
    I saw "healer problem" in the title and my mind instantly went to WoW forums PTSD with healer complaints over there.
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie View Post
    I saw "healer problem" in the title and my mind instantly went to WoW forums PTSD with healer complaints over there.
    Interestingly, the games have opposite problems.

    FF14 there isn't enough to heal and the role is super boring.

    WoW there is too much to heal and the role is super stressful.
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    Bibine Bine
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    Mateus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Healer main here. No one is saying "healers shouldn't have to heal." In fact, most healers disagree with that sentiment. The guy in the novice network was just telling you how it is. He wasn't saying that's how it *should* be.
    Unfortunately, Square Enix seems to think so.
    And then they turn around and say encounters aren't "designed with healer DPS in mind." Lol. Lmao.

    At least this raid tier they put in some hard-hitting >unavoidable< mechanics that have the healers doing more than just hitting a single oGCD. I'm hoping they do more stuff like that.
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    OgruMogru's Avatar
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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Every % missing health should yield a % of damage down. Every % of overheal/shield should yield a damage buff.
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OgruMogru View Post
    Every % missing health should yield a % of damage down. Every % of overheal/shield should yield a damage buff.
    Hopefully this is sarcasm. Why make the party pay because a healer keeps their health low? That's not going to make healers who focus on dps to the detriment of their party's success (note: NOT those who balance both successfully) anymore inclined to help their parties because they aren't helping their parties in the first place.

    Not to mention the issues this will cause in harder content where it's a good idea to have healers helping with dps in the lulls when there isn't damage expected. That also happens in more casual content but it's more optional in casual content and would not effect casual content as much, but would be the difference between a clear and not a clear sometimes in harder content.
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    angienessyo's Avatar
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    Khulan Noir
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Considering the bulk of the most dps obsessed people I've met have all been healers, they really need to make the role more demanding on the healing end.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    Considering the bulk of the most dps obsessed people I've met have all been healers, they really need to make the role more demanding on the healing end.
    Yep, that's what happens when the role has zero appeal for the people who actually want to be support/healers. The only people willing to play the role are those who enjoy using a spreadsheet to map out each and every oGCD.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Yep, that's what happens when the role has zero appeal for the people who actually want to be support/healers. The only people willing to play the role are those who enjoy using a spreadsheet to map out each and every oGCD.
    Those people have left long ago as well, because mapping out your actions in a fight is only fun when it actually matters.
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