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    Koros Drakon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It is true that statistically people gravitate to the simple jobs and SE almost certainly will notice this. If they notice this, it's only a matter of time before the question is raised "should we make all jobs simple?" and here we are.
    No, people gravitate to meta jobs. WAR, DNC, and SMN are all meta for casual prog because of WAR's Holmgang for PF invuln strats, SMN for raise and the high mobility, and DNC+SAM is one of the easiest way to boost your rDPS. DRK is actually the most played tank in JP, along with SAM being the most played DPS. A lot of people don't actually like playing DRK though. These statistics don't show anything other than what's meta.

    Nerf WAR's self-sustain and you'll see WAR becoming far less popular.

    Also, a lot of people gravitate to jobs because of the visuals. How do you disentangle the % of players picking up a job because of the visuals vs. them picking it up because of the simplicity? A lot of players play DNC, WHM, and SMN purely because of the class fantasy, not because of the mechanics.
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    Last edited by Koros; 08-14-2023 at 11:06 AM.

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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Also, a lot of people gravitate to jobs because of the visuals. How do you disentangle the % of players picking up a job because of the visuals vs. them picking it up because of the simplicity? A lot of players play DNC, WHM, and SMN purely because of the class fantasy, not because of the mechanics.
    True. DNC is one of those jobs that someone is going to play just because they dance.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    True. DNC is one of those jobs that someone is going to play just because they dance.
    I just like the job myself, after whm its what I am most on. I couldnt give a rats behind if its meta or not, I just like it
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    Klee Zunners
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    No, people gravitate to meta jobs. WAR, DNC, and SMN are all meta for casual prog because of WAR's Holmgang for PF invuln strats, SMN for raise and the high mobility, and DNC+SAM is one of the easiest way to boost your rDPS. DRK is actually the most played tank in JP, along with SAM being the most played DPS. A lot of people don't actually like playing DRK though. These statistics don't show anything other than what's meta.

    Nerf WAR's self-sustain and you'll see WAR becoming far less popular.

    Also, a lot of people gravitate to jobs because of the visuals. How do you disentangle the % of players picking up a job because of the visuals vs. them picking it up because of the simplicity? A lot of players play DNC, WHM, and SMN purely because of the class fantasy, not because of the mechanics.
    Summoner isn't top of the meta. It's played because it's simple and players want to be able to pick up a role quickly. As a lot of players play multiple jobs rather frequently, so don't want to have to spend a lot of time mastering it if it's not their main role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Summoner isn't top of the meta. It's played because it's simple and players want to be able to pick up a role quickly. As a lot of players play multiple jobs rather frequently, so don't want to have to spend a lot of time mastering it if it's not their main role.
    what would someone who has cleared zero relevant content know about the meta
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