If you're unhappy with this game then unsub... forever.

[Zabuza]

I don't care whatsoever if people sub or not. Not my money, not my time. I just dislike posts with the following:

1. Random personal insults that have nothing to do with the discussion.
2. Theatrics and hyperbole, kind of like the post I'm responding to.

No one here wants a forum "full of uncritical praise" nor do they "love sloppy game design." These comments are just absurd and fails to see any nuance and what posters are actually saying.

Posts like that I guess make more entertaining content though, I suppose.

What part of my OP is hyperbolic? That when players stop paying, it is effective in getting attention from the devs when complaints fail? Or are you trying to say things aren't that bad? It's been 4 years since ShB came out and they've done nothing but take content quality and quantity away, little by little. The forums have had radio silence from devs and community managers for a long time now. Some of Yoshi-P's statements to the players have been downright dismissive, such as the infamous 'go play Ultimate' statement. We saw in front of our eyes some of the FFXIV staff and undoubtedly, funds, get taken to work on another game. Do you think the complaints are getting through to the devs? Because it doesn't seem that way to me. And it's not like this is some new phenomenon. This has been the situation in this game for awhile now.

[ZephyrMenodora]

What part of my OP is hyperbolic? That when players stop paying, it is effective in getting attention from the devs when complaints fail? Or are you trying to say things aren't that bad? It's been 4 years since ShB came out and they've done nothing but take content quality and quantity away, little by little. The forums have had radio silence from devs and community managers for a long time now. Some of Yoshi-P's statements to the players have been downright dismissive, such as the infamous 'go play Ultimate' statement. We saw in front of our eyes some of the FFXIV staff and undoubtedly, funds, get taken to work on another game. Do you think the complaints are getting through to the devs? Because it doesn't seem that way to me. And it's not like this is some new phenomenon. This has been the situation in this game for awhile now.

Not everything is about you. In case you didn’t notice I actually responded to someone else. I didn’t even bother reading most of your OP since I really have no interest in whether you’ve temporarily unsubbed rather than your original plan to stay here another year while telling others to.

If you want a response to you specifically I’ll give you one. I find it quite theatrical that you tell people to unsub “forever”. At the time you wrote this you planned on playing another year. Even now I doubt you’ll be gone “forever”. You’re still here now.

[Arkdra]

It would be cool if people did this just so the 5 posters keeping this dogshit forum active would vanish and know peace.

[Renalt]

[Troxbark]

I just need your gil before any of you unsub.

[True-to-Caesar]

I just need your gil before any of you unsub.

81 million here, 6 days left.

You can stay poor though.

[Troxbark]

81 million here, 6 days left.

You can stay poor though.

I remember when I only had 81 million, LMAO.

I'll take your salt too, that is just as good.

[NanaWiloh]

Players have the right to be unhappy with the game. Telling them leave is also not the best solution depending on their issue. Yes complaints get annoying, mostly the trolling ones. But a lot just want the game improved in one or another.

[Zabuza]

Players have the right to be unhappy with the game. Telling them leave is also not the best solution depending on their issue. Yes complaints get annoying, mostly the trolling ones. But a lot just want the game improved in one or another.

Yes. I want the game improved, too. I've wanted that for years. But SE is not listening. We've yelled into the void for years and heard only silence in return. I was suggesting leaving because at this point it's the only thing that can bring about change. Complaining isn't changing anything because SE does not seem to care. If enough players unsubbed at once, it would get SE's attention. And if you don't think it would, then surely you can admit complaints haven't been doing anything either? Why continue to play a game where the devs don't listen to a word you say and keep taking it in the opposite direction from what players seem to want? I'm not commanding anyone here to unsub. But isn't it evident by now that complaints alone aren't working?

[Rufalus]

I guess I have to admit that non-gameplay things are actually important in an MMO. Part of the reason it's hard to leave XIV is that the world design is so much better than other games. It would be easier for them to add interesting activities here than for other games to completely remake their worlds into places people care about. XIV is the most pretty social/ERP hub.

This game's interface for gamepad/ console players is also a million miles better than any other MMO. Cross hotbar is the only way to have immediate direct access to dozens of abilities, emotes, menus, macros, etc but no other game does it. They've had 10 years to copy but still they have controller layouts that are gimped in some way, and HUDs that can't be customised as much as XIV.

So there's some praise I seldom give these days. FF XIV is the #1 online game for world building, art design, interface, QoL features, music. There are enough reasons for me to stay and care enough to bother complaining about the gameplay, repetitive content loop. It feels like at least 80% of the dev effort is consumed by iterating old content types that have been done a hundred times before. Designing expansions to fit inside an old template is such a waste of their talent.