If you're unhappy with this game then unsub... forever.

[Ravenblade1979]

This sentence right here is just inherently wrong. Monetization and fun are inherently linked, not because people find paying fun or not, but because the C-Suite at the game company is incentivized to get you to cough up as much money as possible. Usually this is by doing things like making it so you can't re-earn event items and instead putting them in the shop, or drip feeding patch content so that people stay subbed. Ever wonder why x.x5 patches, with more content, are often a month or two AFTER the main line patch? It's not because they are worried about everyone going through it too fast, it's so they can milk more money out of you that you might not have spent otherwise.

In other words, the developers are actively incentivized to make the game LESS fun if it means making the company MORE profit. And they often do.

I feel like you are trying to badly argue this point. This is a ongoing MMO. Of course they going to drip out content but with this game you know it's coming.

Although your one point is just funny since yoshi p himself literally told people it was ok to drop your sub if you want a break.

The people who generally don't are the ones afraid to lose some virtual property they aren't using anyways in most cases. The rest of the population got no issue dropping their sub and coming back when they want.

As for event stuff. You don't see very many people up in arms about it hitting cash shop. Probably because they know it's optional and they don't need it with the literal myriad of housing items and whatnot in the game already.

Again...no leg to stand on because if you somehow see a connection between monetization and fun...you probably should quit all video games.

You buy a game to enjoy your way...season pass...monetized..lol. like at least it's not predatory like EA lootboxes or genshin impact ganja or even BDO cash shop

[Rolder50]

Although your one point is just funny since yoshi p himself literally told people it was ok to drop your sub if you want a break.

I do not care what he says, because they explicitly design the game in ways that prevent you from taking breaks. So he's pretty much just lying for free PR.

[Clover_Blake]

I do not care what he says, because they explicitly design the game in ways that prevent you from taking breaks. So he's pretty much just lying for free PR.

What ways? I can only think of housing, but you can simply get an apartment if you aren't planning to play much.

[Rolder50]

What ways? I can only think of housing, but you can simply get an apartment if you aren't planning to play much.

The entire housing system as mentioned. Apartments are not a replacement for real housing.

Seasonal event items not being re-earnable in game when the seasonal event comes around again.

Tomestone / loot weekly lockouts.

.x5 patches always being 1 or 2 months after the main patch for no good reason.

Island Sanctuary leveling is time gated and can't be planned out more then two weeks in advance.

Relic weapons, for some reason, are always half way into the expansion rather then be there at / near launch.

And that's what I can think of off the top of my head.

[Reinha]

I do not care what he says, because they explicitly design the game in ways that prevent you from taking breaks. So he's pretty much just lying for free PR.

The entire housing system as mentioned. Apartments are not a replacement for real housing.

Seasonal event items not being re-earnable in game when the seasonal event comes around again.

Tomestone / loot weekly lockouts.

.x5 patches always being 1 or 2 months after the main patch for no good reason.

Island Sanctuary leveling is time gated and can't be planned out more then two weeks in advance.

Relic weapons, for some reason, are always half way into the expansion rather then be there at / near launch.

And that's what I can think of off the top of my head.

An offline character doesn't need the newest gear. There is catch up gear in every patch and if someone wants the previous gear for glamour it's still there. X.X5 patches have content that one can do when they come back. Island Sanctuary xp is not time gated, you can earn as much as you want. Players who take breaks can complete relics when they return to the game. It's very much possible to resub in X.55 and complete everything that's been released by that point. Getting the newest loot and experiencing content when it's new are rewards for staying subscribed throughout the year, but not required.

Housing and seasonal events are the only FOMO things you mentioned that prevent people from taking breaks, and with the amount of hate seasonal events get sometimes you arguably don't lose much there either.

[Ravenblade1979]

Now thinking. Most people buy a game because it's fun for them. All gaming companies do stuff to have people spend more money. It's still fun so I can see the link there for stuff like season passes and stuff like that but we have expacs we pay for.

The optional shop doesn't bring enjoyment like that to people really. You got some who don't wanna put work in and got a way to skip..so convenience but not fun...you got mounts but meh once you start collecting you quickly find your favorites.

You got glam
..which some pieces ok but mainly no. Most stuff just is meh and you can get alot nicer things in game if you take the time.

You got orchestrates..which you can get alot in game but if you want the funky music of pulse or some orchestra then cool. You got dyes which meh..you can get in game a few ways.

You got other stuff too but unlike a season pass....ya don't need to get it. There's no incentive to really buy any of it. Especially with their pricing Most of the time. I more often then not see people complain and wait for sales but there's lots of others who do spend on it. Mainly for fantasias though but I think they addicted or can't make up mind on a race. I can't decide on that.

If you don't game for fun then what do you game for? What purpose do you have to play a game if you aren't enjoying it. Every game is flawed in some way. This one isn't perfect but as I'm guessing you been here a long time...must still find it enjoyable despite all that was said.

[Koros]

[kentribal]

As a og mmo player i say:ff is better than other games right now.for example:wow has make special channel to chat to sell boost for gold and real money,also make og expansions of the game and if u want to play need to pay sub in retail game to play.also make a trading post in game and sell with ingame tokens mounts and other stuffs that not obtainable in game right now.for us take time to take a mount and now it give free to the ppl.so left from this money feeder company and about 2 years now im in FF and every second im in game i love it.i dont from another game like linage2 etcetc cus i need a whole post to wrtiting

[Aword3213]

What about the ones with the Titanmen memes in their signatures and the ones making jokes about his portrait ? Where were you then ? Didnt see you.

Oh no, you got me. But I still have a trick up in my sleeve.

Do you feel validated now ? Are you happy again with your life, will you move on ? lmao

They aren't obligated to say anything. Screw off with this forced 'neutrality' nonsense. (I put 'neutrality' in quotes because if someone calls you out, you cry and write a book about it) You're just upset that they didn't call out the people you wanted them to.

forced neutrality. Now you two can fight.

[Rufalus]

I think we've witnessed the self-destruction of the JRPG. Final Fantasy used to sit atop a category that included Wild Arms, Grandia, Skies of Arcadia, Chrono, Breath of Fire, Suikoden, Earthbound, Ogre Battle and more.

*blank stare*
...21st Century isn't panning out. Didn't even get to try Dragon Quest X, not even the offline version. Why didn't they localize it?