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    Cecilia Amor
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    Quote Originally Posted by KujinRen View Post
    If you only had access to one class/job then yes, the speed to get to Lv50 is too fast. However, keep in mind that you're leveling multiple classes and jobs. Lv50 multiplied by how many classes you will level. It actually evens out. For people who are concerned they won't be able to experience all the lower level content, you can do this while leveling another class.
    This is true, but it creates a number of issues with the current system. See, to maintain that, they need to create enough midgame content to level 3 or 4 classes with. Currently, we hardly have enough for one. The second issue is that, because it's balanced around leveling multiple classes, you end up with several shallow experiences as opposed to one, meaningful one

    Again, the actual leveling isn't really the issue here, it's the complete lack in sense of progression. Right now, 1-50 is a meaningless grind before you get to any real content worth doing, and that's poor design. If they fleshed out the leveling experience, filled it with meaningful, exciting content, and THEN you reached endgame, well, that'd be much better than what we have now
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    Hello,

    I'm glad everyone is enjoying the thread, but it seems to have gone a bit off-topic. Don't be alarmed if you see some posts that need to be moderated. We know you enjoy the discussion and we'd like to keep this thread open, but we'd appreciate it if you'd stay more on topic and refrain from any personal attacks. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
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    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verytus View Post
    Hello,

    I'm glad everyone is enjoying the thread, but it seems to have gone a bit off-topic. Don't be alarmed if you see some posts that need to be moderated. We know you enjoy the discussion and we'd like to keep this thread open, but we'd appreciate it if you'd stay more on topic and refrain from any personal attacks. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
    Thanks man, I thought this thread was going to have a seizure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verytus View Post
    Hello,

    I'm glad everyone is enjoying the thread, but it seems to have gone a bit off-topic. Don't be alarmed if you see some posts that need to be moderated. We know you enjoy the discussion and we'd like to keep this thread open, but we'd appreciate it if you'd stay more on topic and refrain from any personal attacks. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
    Yes. Silence those filthy casuals, they have no place in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomarl View Post
    Yes. Silence those filthy casuals, they have no place in this game.
    Um it appears one or more of your posts got deleted lol. Anyways im gone for realreal now
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProxyFate View Post
    LOL,

    They want hardcore play but they take that as sitting in a spot grinding out a bar. How about we get real hardcore people and get world bosses that take combined effort and a four hour battle to kill. That was hardcore in FFXI, not grinding out the mundane levels.
    Funny, those that tend to enjoy leveling are the ones that go out of their way to find different places to level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomarl View Post
    Yes. Silence those filthy casuals, they have no place in this game.

    says the hardcore player with 1 fifty http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...cicuid=2402167
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    A final thought on all this nonsense before i go to work


    Should level 1-50 be fast? Yeah it should, for a single class.
    Lets look at MMOs as a whole in this, over time, leveling gets faster as that specific level gets older and older. All games do this for the most part.

    when a level cap raise goes into effect, that cap raise itself usualy takes as long as if not longer then ALL the levels before it.

    I highly forsee this being something looked at with us here. Should 1-50 take 40-80 hours? well, looks like 51-60 will take another 80 hours, and so on and so forth.
    61-70 copuld takde upwards of 200 hours depending on what things look like then and so on.


    1-50 at this point has been around so long, it probly is time for a level cap raise in the future(at 2.0 or within a few months after i would hope) so that we can go beyond what we are at now. and there is a high probability of this happening if people remember what we were told by yoshi about his thoughts on cap raises.


    Casual vs hardcore has NOTHING at all to do with it at this point, but after so long, people just getting into the game do need a bit of help playing catchup to those who have been in for years as far as level raising. And this is whats basicaly been happening over time(though it has been alot faster then it should be imo but thats another story)

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    Chizumi Mooncleave
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    Moose you kill me lol. Me and Tina had a discussion about this last night in the ls. Care to talk about this in chat along with how doomed humanity is again?
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