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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    How is me leaving primal going to fix primals party finder issues if anything you should convince people to come back and put up party finders on primal. Convincing more people to leave isn't going to fix things on the datacenter.
    OP is trying to exacerbate the issue by having more players travel to Aether to PF. This would then send a clear message to the development team to indicate to current ongoing issue, in the form of data.

    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    I would imagine the devs are pretty flabbergasted at the moment having watched the community so thoroughly shoot itself in the foot like this and then get mad at them about it.

    Cross-DC PF could potentially solve the issue but we don't know if implementing that is even possible. Until such time as that is proven otherwise, it seems like the only solutions at the moment are:

    1. Community collectively stops going to Aether and creating its own problem. (unlikely)

    2. Devs block travelers from using PF/DF on other Data Centers.

    3. Devs disable DC Travel entirely.

    No matter what they do they're going to enrage some percentage of the player base.
    How exactly is the community "shooting itself in the foot"? It's common knowledge that a larger pool of players available increases the chances of getting into content that's generally run through PF.
    This was already the case before data center travel was even a thing. Most notably was the exodus of raiders on Balmung, when SE decided to move it away from Gilgamesh/Aether and into the newly made Crystal datacenter. Data Center travel simply made this more accessible/free.

    Cross-DC PF wouldn't just potentially solve the issue, it would 100% solve the issue.
    If they're able to make travel between physical datacenters work (for example, NA to EU), as stated by Yoshi-P, it's not too big of a stretch for Cross-DC PF to be a thing eventually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I'd prefer it going away also, but #2 is the best option imo.
    Easy for you to say, since you're already on Aether. #2 would simply push more people to either transfer or start on Aether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    OP is trying to exacerbate the issue by having more players travel to Aether to PF. This would then send a clear message to the development team to indicate to current ongoing issue, in the form of data.
    It does seem there doing that to try to convince the dev team to get rid of datacenter travel by having the entire primal crystal and dynamis pile onto aether even more to stress out that datacenter more then it already is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    It does seem there doing that to try to convince the dev team to get rid of datacenter travel by having the entire primal crystal and dynamis pile onto aether even more to stress out that datacenter more then it already is.
    I think conceptually it would look like PF being a database all datacenters in a region can access with the information of the players and when the PF queues into an instance all characters get ported to the same instance/server so they can raid together. How that would look like on their proprietary IP is anyones guess. But yes, by exacerbating the issue it will inevitably become high priority.

    Its not like people have anything to gain by trying to fight this and staying in their own DCs. All that will net them is vastly longer wait times or never filling in worst cases.

    In fact, it's mostly already happened. There are a couple of holdouts here and there, but I'd say close to 90% of the population is already raiding in Aether.

    Quite frankly, besides the minor annoyance of DC travel this could just be the new reality, which is fine, but not ideal. If this is truly what the playerbase wants, for this not to be fixed, it's not a deal breaker. But, it could be better for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I think conceptually it would look like PF being a database all datacenters in a region can access with the information of the players and when the PF queues into an instance all characters get ported to the same instance/server so they can raid together. How that would look like on their proprietary IP is anyones guess. But yes, by exacerbating the issue it will inevitably become high priority.

    Its not like people have anything to gain by trying to fight this and staying in their own DCs. All that will net them is vastly longer wait times or never filling in worst cases.

    In fact, it's mostly already happened. There are a couple of holdouts here and there, but I'd say close to 90% of the population is already raiding in Aether.

    Quite frankly, besides the minor annoyance of DC travel this could just be the new reality, which is fine, but not ideal. If this is truly what the playerbase wants, for this not to be fixed, it's not a deal breaker. But, it could be better for sure.
    With how the thread was titled is seemed you wanted people to pile up on aether to crash it and get rid of datacenter visit unless i misunderstood the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    With how the thread was titled is seemed you wanted people to pile up on aether to crash it and get rid of datacenter visit unless i misunderstood the thread.
    no, the server can handle it, they just got upgraded as well, its so the devs see that the rest of the servers are an empty wasteland in PF and they need to fix that. It's pretty unacceptable. noobs suffer the most since they dont know they can hop
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