At this point will FFXIV collapse if all mods and third party tools disappear?

[Mcg55ss]

For raiders it's rather simple, they'll just go back to WoW, they're probably raiding in both games already anyway.

For the people sitting in Limsa all day on the other hand there are always other options because what you seem to miss is that these people aren't playing XIV for it's amazing (lmao) gameplay or strong (lmao²) mmo elements.
They would just go to a different game that is essentially an online chat room with decent graphics and visual customization, because that's essentially all they're engaging with anyway.

I like how you take the the very next sentence after the party quoted me that I said and said the same thing like you were trying to make a point lol And for the second part for the people chilling in limsa what game would that be, elder scrolls, wow, guild wars 2 really dont think any would be able to grab them for anything extended. They might get some influx but not retain them.

[AlexiaD]

I like how you take the the very next sentence after the party quoted me that I said and said the same thing like you were trying to make a point lol And for the second part for the people chilling in limsa what game would that be, elder scrolls, wow, guild wars 2 really dont think any would be able to grab them for anything extended. They might get some influx but not retain them.

You understand that the reason they chill in Limsa is because they share mods with each other, right ? Also they hang out and look at each other's glams amongst other stuff, but mods are a big part of why they are even there

Else they'd literally be sitting in their houses afk doing absolutely nothing, stop acting as if FFXIV is superior in every way and as if no one is going to dare leave because all the other mmo's are terrible, wake up, also mods are a big part of this game, deal with it.

[Absurdity]

And for the second part for the people chilling in limsa what game would that be, elder scrolls, wow, guild wars 2 really dont think any would be able to grab them for anything extended. They might get some influx but not retain them.

Maybe none of those? Let me spell it out again, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT MMO PLAYERS. They are here for a pretty dress-up game with chat functions. They are here to play Second Life with graphics that aren't from 2003.

[AlexiaD]

Maybe none of those? Let me spell it out again, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT MMO PLAYERS. They are here for a pretty dress-up game with chat functions. They are here to play Second Life with graphics that aren't from 2003.

People like this literally dont understand that for a lot of people, this game is a social hangout simulator with good looks, not a content game (lol content in ffxiv)

All you need to do is search the FFXIV hashtag on twitter and on other websites to see that what is the big "image" of this game isn its modding/gpose community is that image, I will even go as far to say barely anyone cares about new content clears when a new tier releases.

[raelgun]

People like this literally dont understand that for a lot of people, this game is a social hangout simulator with good looks, not a content game (lol content in ffxiv)

All you need to do is search the FFXIV hashtag on twitter and on other websites to see that what is the big "image" of this game isn its modding/gpose community is that image, I will even go as far to say barely anyone cares about new content clears when a new tier releases.

These people need to get out side and get laid, such desperate and social deprived saddos

[AlexiaD]

These people need to get out side and get laid, such desperate and social deprived saddos

I mean that's like, your opinion, I'm sure they dont care about what you think dont you worry

If you want a judgement from me however, here is one. I find it depressing that being a limsa chatter is probably the most satisfying way to play the game at this point, because they are always happy with what they get, just like RPers they make their own content.

Meanwhile I'm sitting here, watching XIV's gameplay become increasingly dogwater for 2 expansions now and questioning why on earth I ever invested this much time into a game that thinks we're all too stupid and we need the devs to reduce the game down to "our level".

This tbh, content in FFXIV is literally the most boring thing ever, thank god for my friends,venues,glams,housing and meeting new people in cities, else I wouldnt be playing.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Maybe none of those? Let me spell it out again, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT MMO PLAYERS. They are here for a pretty dress-up game with chat functions. They are here to play Second Life with graphics that aren't from 2003.

Why does it have to be one or the other? I know many who enjoy both. I know savage raiders who also RP and collect glams. Whats wrong with that?

[Absurdity]

Why does it have to be one or the other? I know many who enjoy both. I know savage raiders who also RP and collect glams. Whats wrong with that?

Because those aren't the people we're talking about.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Because those aren't the people we're talking about.

Fair, but then okay what about the people who ARE only here for second life/IMVU type stuff? Why does that bother anyone? They are contributing cash flow to the game and other than their character model physically existing in the world I don't see how thats a problem.

If people want MMO's where the focus is on mind breaking encounters with spreadsheets and stats item weights and other sweaty buzzwords, there are plent of other games that deliver that experience better.

[Absurdity]

The MMO aspect of a MMORPG is far less designed than the RPG aspect, these players are online and participating in the game world, just not in ways you seem to want them to. What’s the issue with this again?

Where did I say that I don't want them to? Read my reply again and what I'm replying to, it's not rocket science.

I sometimes seriously question people's reading comprehension. Where did I make a judgement on the second life/IMVU players? Unless we now assume that putting something in caps for emphasis is a judgement.
I simply stated the fact that they're here to play dress-up and chat, so if you take the dress-up part out of it by banning mods they will go somewhere else, because they are not here for the MMORPG part, they probably couldn't care less about the gameplay.