Binomial Nomenclature and /tell /target commands

[Kio]

Greetings,

Once again, sorry for the ogre bump. We understand that having two names can make sending /tells difficult at times. Therefore, when it comes to sending tells in A Realm Reborn, we are planning to have two different methods; typing out the player's name and a method that doesn't involve having to type their name. While things have yet to be finalized, we are looking into possibilities such as a feature where you can just click on the player's name in the chat log to send them a tell.

Once we hear some more concrete information we will be sure to pass it along.

The problem more lies within people whom you do not have physically around you or a preexisting conversation with. For instance, if you want to send a tell to someone who is only a minor acquaintance and you have only naturally memorized their given name you are stuck unable to message them. I know his name is Kitty but what was his last name again? Hmm... There may be about 50 other people with the given name Kitty on the server. Or if believe you know their surname but have no idea how it is spelled you are also in a bind.

Quite a while ago, the dev team stated that they were trying to devise a way that if you were to type "/tell Kitty", something described similar to auto translate would pop up to give a list of possible surnames. Is this still something that will be possible for ARR? I worry my previously mentioned scenario may be an even bigger problem sending tells for people who will use the toggle surnames off feature. If you never learn the surname of a character, or don't add everyone you encounter ever into your friends list you're pretty much up a creek without a paddle.

For the record I like the novelty of surnames, it makes my character feel like she has more of an identity. However, I wish it wasn't actually part of her character ID. It would be better to still have the first name be unique one character per server and allow it to be the means of contact, keeping the surname just for immersion purposes but be irrelevant as far as contact goes. It's just too troublesome. I don't even have all my real life friends full names memorized let alone all my virtual ones!

[Alhanelem]

The problem more lies within people whom you do not have physically around you or a preexisting conversation with. For instance, if you want to send a tell to someone who is only a minor acquaintance and you have only naturally memorized their given name you are stuck unable to message them.

Shouldn't a minor aquaintance be on your friends list? You can /tell people on your friends list through the friend list interface even if you can't spell their name.

Even if not, they have to have sent you a message in say shout party or tell at some point in the past, or they aren't an aquaintance, in which case you have something to click on for the proposed feature, and on top of that, unless they're getting rid of it, there's the audience section in autotranslate.

[Zumi]

I can see why people would want to use the same name on a server, but its not really my cup of tea I prefer the simplicity of 1 name. I have like 6 or 7 names I like using on games and some names I made up myself so they are never taken. Probably the issues I had with typing out long names should be fixed in 2.0.

They most likely will add the left click someones name to send them a tell or right click their name to bring up other menu of options like to invite them to party like every other mmo has. For example you see a guy shouting for a Ifrit party click his name in the chat log then type what you want to say to him.

[Felis]

An interactive chat is a must. Right click player names for
/tell
/invite
/oust
/add to friend list
/ignore
/change text color
/inspect

/report chat-text (for RMT-chat, harassment and insult)

[Kio]

Shouldn't a minor aquaintance be on your friends list? You can /tell people on your friends list through the friend list interface even if you can't spell their name.

Even if not, they have to have sent you a message in say shout party or tell at some point in the past, or they aren't an aquaintance, in which case you have something to click on for the proposed feature, and on top of that, unless they're getting rid of it, there's the audience section in autotranslate.

When I stated, "minor acquaintance," I was referring more to people you meet in passing. Such as someone you grouped with the previous day that you think may be able to fit a spot in a new party. Perhaps someone who synthed or melded something for you a while back and you want to see if they're willing to do another. The click to tell feature is a good work around to message people you've come across on that gaming session but after the course of a day, a week, or longer you probably no longer have that option. Also, you interact with a lot of people in a MMO, but that doesn't mean that you go around tossing friend invitations like an Oprah Winfrey prize give-away either.

[Yrusama]

It's coming...

...in 2.0

LOL... It's coming in 2.0 or it's not coming at all. The whole game is coming in 2.0.

I do remember Wada asking about this during Live Letter III I think, and they at least said they'll work on it.

[Alhanelem]

The click to tell feature is a good work around to message people you've come across on that gaming session but after the course of a day, a week, or longer you probably no longer have that option.

As was mentioned before the dev response, the 'audience' autotranslate category persists across play sessions. You can recall the names of people that have spoken in your presence even if it wasn't the same day.

Honestly, surnames are fine and I think people should be able to have as long or short a name as they want. It's up to them to accept the consequences of doing so.

My name is 1 letter too long for the new name entry screen. Thankfully I'm not forced to change it.

[Doki]

Protip: Come up with as short a character name as you can. It's a lot easier for people to remember, and type. I'm sort of sad that the game doesn't allow you to create a name shorter than 4 characters for first name and 4 characters for last name. Maybe I want a character named Doc Holiday, Val Killmoar, Suchie Pai, or even Q Q.

[Kyri]

There's been some great discussions on this thread to resolve these issues and the information already in game that some apparently didn't know about but I for one and 100% against one name mmos. In fact every mmo I have played I have practically fangirled SE for the two name system. After trying out various mmos and even trying to keep my name in XI and XIV(from server merges in xi mostly) I hate with a passion making my character and then being stuck for over a hour trying every name I can and not getting a thing. Two names is wonderful, it's more realistic and allows me and other kyri's to have the name we love without being peeved every time we see a character running around with the gamertag you've been using for the last 7 yrs and your stuck with some horridly long awful name you hate. If your having dificulty with long names of someone you -sometimes- PM, befriend them. When I played and some ridiculously long named player poped up well, I just don't talk to them. It was their choice to pick a long name people would have difficulty remembering. I even changed my last name from Trismegistius to Sagitta to help friends remember me better. If I happened to find myself doing things on the side with someones name I had difficulty remembering, I befriended them, or added them to my notepad of the cool, the blocked and the OhmahGawdDontPTWithThemEver list.

Do you really want to spend two hours in character creation trying to google any partially okay name you can use only to find they too are taken? Half the time I give up and try Allnamestaken and cant even get that as a choice. One name mmos also cause more of those really hard to remember names, because the only name they could get required adding like 5 random letters to it to make it useable. All in all, thank you SE for allowing me to have two names to keep my name even if I transfer servers later on, and the ability to not be named Kyri.Sagitta kyrisagitta Kyyyriiiiieee, or Kyri-sagitta. <3

[Skies]

Protip: Come up with as short a character name as you can. It's a lot easier for people to remember, and type. I'm sort of sad that the game doesn't allow you to create a name shorter than 4 characters for first name and 4 characters for last name. Maybe I want a character named Doc Holiday, Val Killmoar, Suchie Pai, or even Q Q.

Wait I think that you are wrong in some account. Here, watch how mister Vai Ashkhewhatever has a three-letter first name.