Square Enix, it's time to come clean about your plans for the future

[Carin-Eri]

You mean just like Jojoya's post ?



Where is the evidence ?

I'll wait.

Well, to be honest, like any posts that makes claims without providing anything to support those claims really.

[Deo14]

A lot have, didnt you see the amount of auto demos that happened in the last wave which was the recent few months on EU ? auto demo literally ravaged the ward I have on sagi and removed not only 1, 2 or 3 plots but 15 plots opened, and that's in shirogane, including mediums and smalls and even a large

6899 in whole EU got demolished in the first wave, 4953 in second wave to be exact.

[Jojoya]

A lot have, didnt you see the amount of auto demos that happened in the last wave which was the recent few months on EU ? auto demo literally ravaged the ward I have on sagi and removed not only 1, 2 or 3 plots but 15 plots opened, and that's in shirogane, including mediums and smalls and even a large

Those are people that have quit this game, stop being blind.

I never said that there aren't players quitting the game.

I told Koros to prove that the majority of players are pouting that the game isn't catering to them by getting them all to quit.

Those demolitions aren't proof of a majority of anything when what demo'd wasn't a majority of the houses that are occupied - or are you going to try to argue that most of the remaining house owners are multi-house owners so the owned plots represent a tiny number of players. We both know better unless you have a lot more accounts for houses than you've hinted at. Don't forget that some of those houses were abandoned all the way back in 6.0 but didn't demo sooner because of demolition suspension.

Now I can look at the Lucky Bancho census, probably the closest we can get to a fairly accurate picture of active players (though his numbers are based on characters and not unique accounts).

Have active characters decreased this year? Yes.

Is the drop enough to represent a majority? No.

Are there still more active characters than there were when the second WoW exodus (which was the big one) started in July 2021? Most definitely.

Believe what you want. I'll believe what I want. But you probably should stop accusing others of being blind when what information we have available to use does not support your claims that everyone who came from WoW has quit FFXIV and gone back to WoW.

You mean just like Jojoya's post ?



Where is the evidence ?

I'll wait.

The evidence of which?

That the game has been successful? The game is still operating a decade later with a new expansion on the way. If it wasn't a success, Square Enix would have long since pulled the plug and booted YoshiP off the Board of Directors like he has asked to be.

That a tiny group of forum posters is pouting over the game not catering to them? Read all the doom threads and replies that have been posted in the past few weeks.

Your move.

6899 in whole EU got demolished in the first wave, 4953 in second wave to be exact.

So about 12,000? It's a fair number but there are over 120,000 plots in EU. Last time I checked, 10% isn't a majority of anything.

[Koros]

kupo kupo KUPO kupo

[Jojoya]

kupo kupo KUPO kupo

No, no. It's kuPO.

Silly Koros.

[Deo14]

So about 12,000? It's a fair number but there are over 120,000 plots in EU. Last time I checked, 10% isn't a majority of anything.

Who said anything about the "MAJORITAH"? I swear some people just throw this "argument" everywhere and hope it sticks.

And if you want to use majority argument for player drop off? Well, if majority of players leave, then it's way, way too late to do anything. Don't know if you're trying to imply that everything is fine and dandy as long as drop isn't over half the playerbase.

[Amnmaat]

jojoya thinks all wow refugees owned a housing plot.
jojoya, in statistics you can use house demolitions and make a logics-based conclusion, that 12,000 demolished plots translates to double or triple that of wow refugees who didn't own a house. Specially considering that to get a house it requires a deeper level of commitment to the game.

This is why forum concerns shouldn't be taken as "only the few post on forums," the forum also represents those who quit the game quietly, they just didn't bother expressing it. This is why school forum, community forum, and such exist in real life. It's not a "oooh that's only those small amount of people, everyone else outside the forum is having fun."

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

No. You are not the voice of a silent majority. No.

[NanaWiloh]

Let me get ready for this thread

Pass me one of those please. Lol

[NanaWiloh]

given the forums and the doom patrol which you are part of...

the logic is fairly sound.

the reality is, anything in development they are unlikely to talk about until its in a fit state to talk about. nor are they under any obligation to us to talk about other future projects.

complying with unrealistic demands on the english forums is unlikely to be part of the overall business strategy, not matter how much kicking and screaming and threatening to hold your breath there is. (I doubt they would do it even on the Japanese forums but you are always welcome to try there too)

I feel modern day devs tripe A and Indie have learned to talk when you have something truly worth talking about..