Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
This! Square does indeed not remove skills and then give them back in a more complex/changed manner for increase depth. Some seem to have missed the memo on how every expansion left most Jobs hollowed out, Samurai with 7 simplifications... getting Kaiten back would be a miracle and it's not un-reasonable request as it existed. Very easy to get back.
It's reasonable to request it, and very reasonable to justify it, but it's unreasonable to think it's very easy to get back based on their history of changes. Just look at healer simplification over the years with DPS and tanks complaining healers don't heal enough even though healer actually do heal, to the point tanks/dps got even more self-sustain/party-sustain that can invalidate healers and healers hasn't gotten anything back in the DPS/support side in response to even lowered healing requirements. Perfectly unreasonable to think it's very easy to get back no matter how simple the request is. The whole reason why it got removed is because crit variance was too big on Samurai, even though they don't say it is (hence the huge rebalance on DPS towards all of Samurai's skills). If it's balanced but functional at the cost of "fun", then they won't change it because lackluster gameplay is subjective, even if the previous majority of players who main that role did enjoy that aspect that was removed. The job gameplay has to be completely broken for them to change anything (see: SCH actually cannot function without Energy Drain in ShB launch or it runs out of MP back then so it was given back) or the entire playerbase has to agree with it (and I mean near 0 dissenting voices and trolls).