G-give it Back T---T; !!

[Tsumdere]

Every CelestiCer SAM post will get support from me.

Give back Kaiten!

[AlexiaD]

Most of the people that were mad over its removal aren't even really that mad about Kaiten itself, they're mad that SAM's rotation has devolved into Shinten spam. Kaiten itself wasn't really a very interesting button, it just offered a different button to press than Shinten. So instead of reimplementing Kaiten, why not design a better ability that uses Kenki? That solves the actual issue at hand while also making SAM more interesting than either pre or post Kaiten removal.



That's really not a good thing. The Kaiten obsession is bad enough.



Discussing a topic you are passionate about in one thread is not the same thing as being so obsessed with one skill in a video game that you feel the need to post numerous threads about it over the course of months, if not longer. (I'm not looking through their post history as I value my sanity)

Yup, very big difference tbh, the housing topic was.. on topic, and in the same thread.

OP literally posts on completely random threads about Kaiten, that's why it's unhealthy, it's an obsession.

[DiaDeem]

Easily the best post about this I've ever seen.

[Renalt]

I just want Kaiten back for you guys. I don't even play SAM but you guys and more clearly want it so why not put it back in as it was?

[Soge01]

Aero III
Shadowflare
Miasma II
Bane
Time Dilation
Luminiferous Aether animation
Nocturnal Sect
Old Celestial Opposition

Delete SGE and EW SMN.

And yes pls Kaiten too.

And Dark Knight's Power Slash.

[CelestiCer]

Every CelestiCer SAM post will get support from me.

Give back Kaiten!

Very kind words, thank you x3

[AsiTsurugi]

+1 for Kaiten's rightful reinstatement.

[Absimiliard]

And Dark Knight's Power Slash.

How 'bout Dark Knight's entire damn kit and identity at this point? It feels like half a class because it is half a class. Most of the stuff that really made it neat were stripped out and given to other jobs. These days it's just Wal-Mart brand WAR, the chief differences being its slightly more active burst window (and slightly higher burst) and its near-total inability to sustain itself.

[Ransu]

That's like saying a DRK player that doesn't want HW DRK back was never really a DRK main.

Any DRK player from HW era who still plays DRK and doesn't miss dark arts is lying.

At this point so do I just so they can stop talking about how much they miss it and go back to complaining about the actual issues SAM has...

There wasn't really any issues with Sam prior to 6.1. The few that were, were minor and easy to fix.

[Ransu]

Most of the people that were mad over its removal aren't even really that mad about Kaiten itself, they're mad that SAM's rotation has devolved into Shinten spam. Kaiten itself wasn't really a very interesting button, it just offered a different button to press than Shinten.

No, I like kaiten because it was fun to use. Yes, shinten spam sucks, and yes kenki is a problem, but kaiten was FUN. A cool animation between GCDs that has an animation that flows perfectly into the iajutus. It was the build up to big damage. Seeing the big crits was FUN.

I'm having fun with reaper this tier because of the enshroud phase. Sure, the samurai in our static is parsing higher because yes, their damage output is consistent now with almost no variance, but it's BORING. I can get 70k+ crits with reaper and seeing big fat crits makes me happy. Seeing wimpy little 30k auto crits from big wind up skills on samurai absolutely sucks.

Give me back kaiten, give me back variance. No kaiten, low hit auto crit casted skills and shinten spam is incredibly boring.