G-give it Back T---T; !!

[Karious]

Is Samurai a gatekeeping club now that only cares about people who want Kaiten back and who don't?

Gatekeeping is good. Get with the program.

[Deo14]

I swear that we're not a cult

[Syln]

I swear that we're not a cult

Have you heard about the words of our lord and savior Kaiten Christ ?

[Xeronia]

You know I hope for you and all those who miss it it is brought back.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

You know I hope for you and all those who miss it it is brought back.

At this point so do I just so they can stop talking about how much they miss it and go back to complaining about the actual issues SAM has...

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

In Bravely Default 2, Dark Arts is also a Pictomancer ability. If we actually get Pictomancer I could see them giving Dark Arts to Pictomancer. At least in name, but not effect.

Boi I'll Daub-debuff all over Square Enix if they do that and hit them with critical everything.

[ValkyrieL]

Not a SAM main but did try out SAM rotation, and something about doing Kaiten right before a big hit just felt satisfying, I don't care about the optimization, it could do zero dmg, it just FEELS cool to do it before a big hit.

[Alleluia]

Aero III
Shadowflare
Miasma II
Bane
Time Dilation
Luminiferous Aether animation
Nocturnal Sect
Old Celestial Opposition

Delete SGE and EW SMN.

And yes pls Kaiten too.

Brutal Swing, pls. MRD goes WHOOOSH!

[CelestiCer]

I swear that we're not a cult

What in the xD !? I kinda love this mhm

[CelestiCer]

This is definitely not true. My friend has parsed 100 in every fight for Samurai and genuinely thinks the job is better without it. There are definitely people out there that don't want it back, but those that do are a lot more vocal about it. It's also one of those topics that people are afraid to speak out publicly against because they don't want to be called trolls or feel harassed like the devs were for removing it.

Click on this link if you truly think this is... nothing... " Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 Kaiten removal " - being silenced is nothing new, we get that treatment from SE a lot and definitely not limited to Samurai...

" Hissatsu: Kaiten " served to not devolve our rotation into Shinten spamming which is what it is now. Debates on the balance against certain crayon eaters I spoke against in the SAM lounge with all offense? just view anything that gets in the way of a perfect parse a nuisance, bad party members in their view included... RNG, Crit variance, Positionals, faulty strats... anything. If a players desire is just a funny number on some website? then anything that simplifies a Job is a pro as it removes another that stood in the way of a high or 100 parse, which I find a terrible mindset for our Gameplay...

" A button you press every-time " excuse of an argument point to showcase something being to easy i.e in their opinion Hissatsu: Kaiten... that I'll get thrown at me for the 100th time, when we press literally every button every time making it a flawed argument by so many players and parsers included... giving me the say that we can remove anything now that is deemed " easy " in our skill kits... for their precious darned logs...

I could agree beyond the meme's that if the player in terms of fun find Samurai better without Kaiten? that's a subjective view on Fun, sure. It being better now in design however? that we're button bashing Shinten as the only meaningful Kenki Spendor... is absolutely moronic...

Absolutely Salute the cosplayer, the 160+ Samurai threads in the DPS subsection, over what 12 video's of content creators about Kaiten... many of us are not apologetic about being passionate about a tiny part of the game no. If your friend is passionate about a number and nothing else much? won't knock it, but I want my Kaiten back... beneficial for their damn Parses or Not... mhm.