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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    .now ur just patronising. There isn't any good substance to why bringing it back is beneficial for the game. Nobody's saying ur being toxic but beating a dead horse is still beating a dead horse. Ppl are loosing interest and the meme just isn't funny anymore its annoying
    I was speaking about the forums in general.

    Also, what are you talking about? There are justifiable reasons why bringing it back would be beneficial for Samurai's rotation, such as that it created anchor points in your rotation that gave structure to how you'd spend Kenki outside of your two minute burst. Now, it's just the Shinten gauge. Kenki is lacking strong alternative ways to spend it, which is sort of the point of a gauge--to act as a resource for a special set of actions. But what I would consider even more important than that: people liked it.

    This is a game. A game is supposed to be fun. When you remove something from the game, and the players who oppose feel that their fun has been taken away while the players who support were not bothered enough to complain about it while it was here, then that is a misstep. Your indifference to it existing or not existing is not an adequate trade off for the dissatisfaction generated from the players who cared about it.
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    Rhea Seren
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    Give back stances, fairies, time magic etc.

    But they won't ever go back~
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Quote Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp View Post
    Give back stances, fairies, time magic etc.

    But they won't ever go back~

    Back so ppl can ignore them and grief for uptime? They didn't work in the past and they won't work again...

    The future is now old man
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 01-06-2024 at 01:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    Back so ppl can ignore them and grief for uptime? They didn't work in the past and they won't work again...

    The future is now old man
    An expressionless future~

    We'll talk again in a few years, my child :3
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Nah. Keep the meme up. Let the dev and everybody sees 'em, thanks!

    Love Shinten spam /s
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Dead meme or not, if people want Kaiten to come back, that's their feedback to give.

    Saying "Bring back Kaiten" is no less feedback than "Bring back exploratory zones", so how about people stop gatekeeping feedback and just let people ask for what they want, eh?
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    why are maleras so schizophreic
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    Player Solakor's Avatar
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    Suo Sao
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    Sindrii is TOTALLY right. We need to focus on the bigger issues like making sure that the devs delete positionals, dots, most of our rotations, buffs etc. because these hamper my enjoyment of the game.
    It is 2024 so those old TOXIC designs need to go and this game needs to become a visual novel. Also i need to be able to do savage with trusts and they need to carry me to victory because i already pay a sub and I am not getting everything in the game without doing nothing!

    P.S. Give Kaiten back or else....
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    All of this is also ignoring the fact that a chunk of MMO players are more conditioned to stick with something even if it's not immediately rewarding. It's that grind mindset and sunk cost fallacy that makes people stick with something longer than they would in a different type of game where they can just walk away. That mileage varies between people obviously but just because a lot of unhappy samurais are still sticking with the job isn't because it's not an issue it's just...like, y'know... grim hope
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