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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU. THIS IS THE POST I WAS TALKING TO:
    So why did you respond to me with 5 essays if you weren't talking about me? Curious that you changed your argument to this right after I disproved even your attempt at gotcha with technicalities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    You're doing this to a person literally saying/arguing FOR KAITEN'S RETURN!!!! Someone who is saying THEY WANT YOU TO GET WHAT YOU WANT!! For the love of Zodiark, TAKE YES FOR AN ANSWER ALREADY!!!!!!!

    If anything, you should be fighting with the people here (and in that thread) openly mocking you and saying they hope you never get Kaiten back. They actually are opposing you. YOU just want to rag on and disparage me personally.

    ...I'm almost honored I live so rent free in your head that there are TWO things you will go after any time: Me and Kaiten. I feel so loved. <3
    Why should the fact that you agree with me influence me? Especially since you made whole argument about something else? Why do you even think I'm "fighting" people, I multiple times asked you for the links you were talking about so the discussion can lead to actual topic, and you finally did, so I'm happy, since discussions can lead to somewhere.

    Who's even opposing me? Except the pedophiles who spam reported my comment and got me banned few weeks back. Aside from few rage baiters, and people who are annoyed by the Cult of Kaiten people who want Kaiten back, there doesn't seem to be much opposition, so the word of our lord and saviour, Hissatsu: Kaiten feedback can spread.
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    Last edited by Deo14; 08-10-2023 at 04:30 AM.

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    Too much arguing in this thread now and not enough Kaiten. Because of this, I think the only solution is that we bring back Kaiten.
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    Next time I wonder why the devs and mods interact absolutely never with the community, I'll just look at this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    Next time I wonder why the devs and mods interact absolutely never with the community, I'll just look at this thread.
    Incase you missed Page 1 of this thread...



    Here are the Devs " interacting with the community "... ugh I am kinda lost on what point you were trying to make XD? But if you wish to see the Dev's interacting with the community you can always refer back to page 1 of this thread yes I guess XD ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    Incase you missed Page 1 of this thread...



    Here are the Devs " interacting with the community "... ugh I am kinda lost on what point you were trying to make XD? But if you wish to see the Dev's interacting with the community you can always refer back to page 1 of this thread yes I guess XD ?

    Is that why Kaiten is back ? Right ? Rightttt ?

    Oh it isnt.

    Interacting with the community at some event literally means nothing, no idea why you're taking it as some kind of hint that it'll happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Is that why Kaiten is back ? Right ? Rightttt ?

    Oh it isnt.

    Interacting with the community at some event literally means nothing, no idea why you're taking it as some kind of hint that it'll happen
    But you did bump the thread so there's... that I guess o.O?



    My post was simply responding to " why Dev's aren't interact with the Community " with a picture of them doing exactly that... interacting. Never have I claimed that Hissatsu: Kaiten would return if we roughly or specifically did X, Y or Z? I am just bringing attention to it, in a serious or joking manner with catchy phrases like " Bring back our Kaiten ", unless you can find a quote that I did. People on the forum seem to love going through another's post history to vilify someone, go have fun doing that if you wish?

    I purely just want gameplay to improve, not just for SAM - I don't want Kaiten removal in a similar fashion happening to any other Job that would hollow out their gameplay. Unless you like to support that idea? Of SE simplifying/streamlining/deleting Skills from Jobs hollowing out our gameplay? I guess keep mocking away, pridefully if you will mhm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    But you did bump the thread so there's... that I guess o.O?



    My post was simply responding to " why Dev's aren't interact with the Community " with a picture of them doing exactly that... interacting. Never have I claimed that Hissatsu: Kaiten would return if we roughly or specifically did X, Y or Z? I am just bringing attention to it, in a serious or joking manner with catchy phrases like " Bring back our Kaiten ", unless you can find a quote that I did. People on the forum seem to love going through another's post history to vilify someone, go have fun doing that if you wish?

    I purely just want gameplay to improve, not just for SAM - I don't want Kaiten removal in a similar fashion happening to any other Job that would hollow out their gameplay. Unless you like to support that idea? Of SE simplifying/streamlining/deleting Skills from Jobs hollowing out our gameplay? I guess keep mocking away, pridefully if you will mhm.
    the point is all those interactions are fake, it's just for PR

    but they'll probably put kaiten back while dumbing down the rest of SAM in 7.0, they're saving it just for that
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    While we’re here can we pleeeeeeease have Wide Volley back for Bards? I want to look cool again

    Addendum:
    I don’t even have Samurai unlocked but I am a Hissatsu: Kaiten ally. The developers have a history of being far too quick to remove interesting or situational abilities because they think our smooth FF player brains can’t handle the complexities of tactical ability usage. Look at what they did to our boi Astrologian!
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    Last edited by Connor; 08-10-2023 at 11:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    the point is all those interactions are fake, it's just for PR

    but they'll probably put kaiten back while dumbing down the rest of SAM in 7.0, they're saving it just for that
    It would sadly not even surprise me. At this point? to simplify the game further... I am expecting them to remove Positionals, or have True North be activated automatically after certain skills or combo's to make the rotation feel even more streamlined as the Tanks are allowed to then... spin every boss they could to meme it. And then really annihilate the resource bars further in whichever way possible. Not that I want that to happen? but it would not surprise me at this point .__.;



    Quote Originally Posted by Lindaru View Post
    And Blood Price, Sole Survivor and Dark Arts (and old Delirium animation?) ;w;
    I support it mhm o/



    Quote Originally Posted by Noox-115 View Post
    Nah man the last thing we get for the last 4 patch is a nerf cuz apparently we are the bests
    That does not feel right mhm :/



    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    While we’re here can we pleeeeeeease have Wide Volley back for Bards? I want to look cool again

    Addendum:
    I don’t even have Samurai unlocked but I am a Hissatsu: Kaiten ally. The developers have a history of being far too quick to remove interesting or situational abilities because they think our smooth FF player brains can’t handle the complexities of tactical ability usage. Look at what they did to our boi Astrologian!
    I gives thumbs up d(^-^d) mhm
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    It would sadly not even surprise me. At this point? to simplify the game further... I am expecting them to remove Positionals, or have True North be activated automatically after certain skills or combo's to make the rotation feel even more streamlined as the Tanks are allowed to then... spin every boss they could to meme it. And then really annihilate the resource bars further in whichever way possible. Not that I want that to happen? but it would not surprise me at this point .__.;
    My bet are instacasts. After all, melee with hardcasts is about only identity SAM has left, which makes me think this is what they'll focus on removing next. They can use that action bloat excuse again, but now it would be justified, since hardcasts do make weaving harder. Other than that and positionals, I really don't know what else could they possibly take from SAM without fully reworking it and creating another SMN.

    To put salt into wound, they'll bring back Kaiten, but now it's not tied to Kenki, it has regular CD, and makes Iaijutsu instacast.
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