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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    So we have one thread for it and another saying no to it. This is why I would never make an MMO. You always piss off a very loud group.
    Meh. I'd just make the MMO the way I wanted. Then again I also wouldn't chase Yoshi-P's unobtainable dream of making the 1 game for everyone. World of videogames has exploded to a point of there being no shortage of options. I'd rather establish a specific fanbase then find ways to improve the experience of that fanbase rather than cutting out the things that fanbase likes to appease people outside of it like he seems to be doing with both this title and FFXVI (which despite it's strong initial week has apparently fallen below expectations in sales). Ppl are going to piss and moan about a game regardless of what you do. So just make the game YOU want to play. Doing that will generally result in a much higher quality of product that stands a much better chance of growing your fanbase by creating curiosity in people that aren't already a part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    I'd rather establish a specific fanbase then find ways to improve the experience of that fanbase rather than cutting out the things that fanbase likes to appease people outside of it like he seems to be doing with both this title and FFXVI (which despite it's strong initial week has apparently fallen below expectations in sales).
    ^^ This. They had an established fanbase, and then they abandoned it to chase after the normie crowd.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Meh. I'd just make the MMO the way I wanted. Then again I also wouldn't chase Yoshi-P's unobtainable dream of making the 1 game for everyone. World of videogames has exploded to a point of there being no shortage of options. I'd rather establish a specific fanbase then find ways to improve the experience of that fanbase rather than cutting out the things that fanbase likes to appease people outside of it like he seems to be doing with both this title and FFXVI (which despite it's strong initial week has apparently fallen below expectations in sales). Ppl are going to piss and moan about a game regardless of what you do. So just make the game YOU want to play. Doing that will generally result in a much higher quality of product that stands a much better chance of growing your fanbase by creating curiosity in people that aren't already a part of it.
    I like this a lot.
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    From a post on the reddit FFXIV Discord as discussed in some media interviews.

    "Plans for new large field battle content like Eureka or Bozja are being discussed."

    https://www.famitsu.com/news/202307/30311422.html

    I think there is a good chance we'll see them again and personally I hope we do.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 08-08-2023 at 11:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I also liked the early part of ARR's relic and never got into Eureka and Bozja. I'm not a fan of grinds if they bore me. I'd rather play something else entirely.
    Then do that, and let the people that enjoy the long grinds have them.

    Remember, come the next expansion 70% of that grind goes away and it becomes the perfect content for braindead people to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    ^^ This. They had an established fanbase, and then they abandoned it to chase after the normie crowd.
    THis sums up the XIV experience.

    ARR: Game for MMO players
    HW: Game for MMO Players with a good story
    SB: Game for MMO players, but starting to homogonize.
    SHB: Game for MMO players, but starting to become more casual.
    EW: Game for non-MMO players, Pushing single player content and updates and very minimal long lasting content
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    We get it dude, you hate exploration zones.
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    Last edited by Zairava; 08-08-2023 at 12:16 PM. Reason: toned down a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Please dont bring back Relic Quest Zones
    no

    Also, screw World FATEs (Except The Dataqui Chronicles. Can we get more like that?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I seriously dont want more of the same crud Eureka and Bozja tries to pad out the exploratory content with stupid grinds. I want an exploratory zone to feel like a diverse playground that DOESNT relegate to just Fate parties waiting for the next raid queue to pop up.

    I already explained this on another thread, but I rather we go back to the ARR style of Relic hunts where each weapon had its history and each step had an interesting set of objectives, rather than trying to tie it to a singular zone. Of course these objectives need to be less grindy and more streamlined.

    I cant be the only one who thinks that exploratory zones can be more than what we have gotten in the past right? There's so many ideas that can be done with this content; How about enabling a PvP war zone, or having some daily or weekly quests to help with progression and resource gathering, or having crafters and gatherers join in to contribute to skirmishes (I will still demand we have the Hyrstmill style of content till the day this game either delivers it or shuts down) or having open public dungeons with variable loot and bosses where you delve to elite mobs that will destroy you unless you join a group (and not an instance btw) and also sprinkle in some time related dungeons and raids; like Baldesion Arsenal, CLL and Dalriada which is arguably to best pieces of social content given in these zones.

    And how about having bigger FATES where they act like World Quests ala WoW where theyre limited but they're big events that reward actual loot rather than just exp and small bit of resources.

    Seriously so many ideas the devs can try to pull from other MMOs to make this content be actually fun. But no, people in this forum just only accept mediocrity and dont care to innovate and rather whine and cry for them to just bring back Eureka and Bozja prolly with no changes to the formula because these people only care for long grinds...which are an outdated game concept that should've died in the 90's but we're still suffering from it.
    With these click bait titles you’d make millions in YouTube. Ugh I mean I agree I’m always up for new experiences but the new experience we got was manderville and that sucked.

    I like manderville as a side story, not a relic quest. So quite frankly if this is their “different” content for a relic I’ll take the exploratory zones with fate grinds back.

    It seems like they only know how to make things worse lately.
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    how can anyone take OP seriously when they played through the msq five times on five alts

    ?_?
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