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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The BA groups enforce people to run a particular way because if you go in and mess around like in CLL you will just get smacked by a rouge mob and die and then a healer has to spend a lot of money getting you up off the floor, and if you get smacked by an annoying mob (like a sprite or centaur) then you are endangering the entire group

    And oh the front of “can I just get some buddies together and do a run” yes you can, just ask the discord for your server, they will make space if you want to do a private run, again it’s not hard to ask. This is what eureka is
    "Just ask the discord for your server, they will make space if you want to do a private-" Im not even gonna finish that statement that you just said...because are you actually kidding me? Do you not HEAR yourself how ridiculous that premise is? Imagine if all content is designed in such a restrictive way. And thank you SO MUCH for proving my point for why the BA groups enforce people to run the content is such a way...because its not well designed at all! Actually you know what, the design would be actually fine...if BA actually allowed you to form your own party and do the content yourself, at your own pace without messing up the instance for the rest of the players.

    I ask you again, pleeeease tell why do you think the devs didnt repeat this level of restriction for CLL, Dalriada and Delibrum? Why do you think they made it more accessible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    "Just ask the discord for your server, they will make space if you want to do a private-" Im not even gonna finish that statement that you just said...because are you actually kidding me? Do you not HEAR yourself how ridiculous that premise is? Imagine if all content is designed in such a restrictive way. And thank you SO MUCH for proving my point for why the BA groups enforce people to run the content is such a way...because its not well designed at all! Actually you know what, the design would be actually fine...if BA actually allowed you to form your own party and do the content yourself, at your own pace without messing up the instance for the rest of the players.

    I ask you again, pleeeease tell why do you think the devs didnt repeat this level of restriction for CLL, Dalriada and Delibrum? Why do you think they made it more accessible?
    Have you heard of delubrum savage

    And yes this kind of content is peak MMO content, discuss and work with other people, that’s how MMO’s work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    "Just ask the discord for your server, they will make space if you want to do a private-" Im not even gonna finish that statement that you just said...because are you actually kidding me? Do you not HEAR yourself how ridiculous that premise is? Imagine if all content is designed in such a restrictive way. And thank you SO MUCH for proving my point for why the BA groups enforce people to run the content is such a way...because its not well designed at all! Actually you know what, the design would be actually fine...if BA actually allowed you to form your own party and do the content yourself, at your own pace without messing up the instance for the rest of the players.
    Oh no. The content designed to emulate an MMO expects you to play as if you were playing an MMO. Whatever shall we do. It's such a catastrophe. We're all going to die. The sky is falling. It's the final days part two.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Have you heard of delubrum savage
    Don't tell them, it might break their brain.

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    You're not going to do those raids anyways so why do you care? Go back to doing MSQ on your fifth alt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Oh no. The content designed to emulate an MMO expects you to play as if you were playing an MMO. Whatever shall we do. It's such a catastrophe. We're all going to die. The sky is falling. It's the final days part two.



    Just saying...the most popular MMO back in the day. World of Warcraft didnt design their raids to be run by a niche group of guilds. Any guild could do the raid without screwing up the instance for other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Just saying...the most popular MMO back in the day. World of Warcraft didnt design their raids to be run by a niche group of guilds. Any guild could do the raid without screwing up the instance for other people.
    You know you can force open more eureka instances without much effort
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You know you can force open more eureka instances without much effort
    Thats such a terrible backwards ass solution to the problem and also something that nobody would ever do because the BA discord group already exists. The problem is that its so gated like that and we're praising it as if its such a good design for an MMO content.

    Again the fact that the devs learned their lesson in Bozja raids to not do that proves my point. Why are there no BA groups in the PF? (thats are not privated) Oh thats right because of shit like that.

    GOOD GAME DESIGN <claps>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Thats such a terrible backwards ass solution to the problem and also something that nobody would ever do because the BA discord group already exists. The problem is that its so gated like that and we're praising it as if its such a good design for an MMO content.

    Again the fact that the devs learned their lesson in Bozja raids to not do that proves my point. Why are there no BA groups in the PF? (thats are not privated) Oh thats right because of shit like that.

    GOOD GAME DESIGN <claps>
    oh no having to join a discord to get easy access to content ? in my mmorpg ? being social ? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Thats such a terrible backwards ass solution to the problem and also something that nobody would ever do because the BA discord group already exists. The problem is that its so gated like that and we're praising it as if its such a good design for an MMO content.

    Again the fact that the devs learned their lesson in Bozja raids to not do that proves my point. Why are there no BA groups in the PF? (thats are not privated) Oh thats right because of shit like that.

    GOOD GAME DESIGN <claps>
    Your argument is you need to work with the discord to do content even if you don’t want to join the discord, well if you adamantly refuse to talk you actually don’t, it’s just another solution, again I’m never going to view talking to a discord as a bad thing in an MMO;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Just saying...the most popular MMO back in the day. World of Warcraft didnt design their raids to be run by a niche group of guilds. Any guild could do the raid without screwing up the instance for other people.
    And they did do that with their next iteration of delubrum reginae along with it's savage version for Bozja.
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