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  1. #1
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Bring Back Relic Weapon Quest Zones

    Was doing Bozja a couple nights ago with a full party, and I forgot how fun the idea of Eureka, and Bozja are. They really put your skills, and wits to the test to get your weapons. Each one earned feels like you've truly earned it.

    I think they were on the right track with Bozja, though I prefer the more high fantasy styling of Eurkea, I think they should of attempted another one. I really hope they don't skip doing a new one in 7.X.

    Going to the New World is cool, especially knowing that its most likely a region focused expansion. Which is a thing a lot of people are excited for, but I feel like an exploratory zone could really benefit on expanding the storyline of establishing the New World.

    Think of all the native legends, and imagery that could take place in such zones, along with its raids. (though the raids should definitely be inside the instance, not like Dalriada). They could take any legend on the New World, and make a zone themed around it, and its lore. It would have the power to truly paint the New World in a wider scale. Doesn't even have to be a country undiscovered. It could be a secret jungle, a floating isle hidden in the New World, a vast cave system, or even a lost city.
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 08-08-2023 at 04:06 PM.

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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    If they're great zones, why do they need to be propped up by the relic? Just let them exist as their own unrelated content.
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    Dagger Tilalexandros
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    The only thing I liked about Eureka was the Baldesian Arsenal. Daldriada, DR and the first Bozja raid didn't hold a candle to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    If they're great zones, why do they need to be propped up by the relic? Just let them exist as their own unrelated content.
    I often said that, I'm not even sure the bozja popularity was due to the relics. For a lot of steps, outside Bozja options was more profitable.

    To me, it was more about the storyline, the field notes for the mount, the fact it's a really good place to xp your other classes, all the thing you could buy with bozjan cluster, and the fact it's a perfect place to go "do something" during off period.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    If they're great zones, why do they need to be propped up by the relic? Just let them exist as their own unrelated content.
    Unironically yes, give me another field content zone, the casuals can play around with their (not tomestone) relics

    There is no gotcha that makes me not want more field content
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    If they're great zones, why do they need to be propped up by the relic? Just let them exist as their own unrelated content.
    This is illogical.

    Very few pieces of content no matter how substantial would struggle to stand on its own two feet without proper incentive. Take CLL, for example. initially, the rewards were nigh on non-existent, and on top of this it gave no experience points. The only people that then ran it were those that needed it for story progression, which bad design. They actually had to go in and add many rewards later on because of the outcry with it

    Would exploratory struggle to stand on its own 2 feet without the incentive of relic or leveling? Probably.

    Is it a bad thing? Not really. - You still have the option to progress the majority of your relic outside of Bozja, and similarly, you could level inside of Bozja. It was optional... People did relics inside there because they preferred progressing them in there, equally, people leveled in there from 71-80, and heck even 81-90 because they wanted to.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 08-06-2023 at 08:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    This is illogical.

    Very few pieces of content no matter how substantial would struggle to stand on its own two feet without proper incentive. Take CLL, for example. initially, the rewards were nigh on non-existent, and on top of this it gave no experience points. The only people that then ran it were those that needed it for story progression, which bad design.

    Would exploratory struggle to stand on its own 2 feet without the incentive of relic or leveling? Probably.

    Is it a bad thing? Not really. - You still have the option to progress the majority of your relic outside of Bozja, and similarly, you could level inside of Bozja. It was optional... People did relics inside there because they preferred progressing them in there, equally, people leveled in there from 71-80, and heck even 81-90 because they wanted to.
    Eureka these days has a massive chunk of people in it for the money and ozma over the relics, a lot is still the relics to be fair but if content is chock full of money items that can be an incentive (I have like 15 things worth over a mil on the market board from eureka right now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Was doing Bozja a couple nights ago with a full party, and I forgot how fun the idea of Eureka, and Bozja are. They really put your skills, and wits to the test to get your weapons. Each one earned feels like you've truly earned it.

    I think they were on the right track with Bozja, though I prefer the more high fantasy styling of Eurkea, I think they should of attempted another one. I really hope they don't skip doing a new one in 7.X.

    Going to the New World is cool, especially knowing that its most likely a region focused expansion. Which is a thing a lot of people are excited for, but I feel like an exploratory zone could really benefit on expanding the storyline of establishing the New World.

    Think of all the native legends, and imagery that could take place in such zones, along with its raids. (though the raids should definitely be inside the instance a cue, not like Dalriada). They could take any legend on the New World, and make a zone themed around it, and its lore. It would have the power to truly paint the New World in a wider scale. Doesn't even have to be a country undiscovered. It could be a secret jungle, a floating isle hidden in the New World, a vast cave system, or even a lost city.
    Bozja story quest also finish on a cliffhanger we never saw the end of it truly. We freed Bozja but, Dalmasca is still under the control of the Empire and the 4th Legion seem to act quite independent from the Empire too so it would be nice if we could see the end of it
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    They said they were discussing instances zones for 7.0 so I have hope we will see them again. Some of the best content for me in the game and I miss it big time this xpac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    If they're great zones, why do they need to be propped up by the relic? Just let them exist as their own unrelated content.
    If there was no reward, nobody would do it. Outside of farming a FATE for a golden flying machine or the currency to get a mount. You can do that all in a day.
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