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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsujin13 View Post
    Only that the eyes are suspiciously present everywhere.
    But the Shadowkeeper is conjured by Mitron using Eden, so maby something there.
    And I can see one, but it sure isn't 'auracite'. Remember, the Shadowkeeper was manifested by an Ascian (and one who seemed particularly into the whole 'bring back the Ancient world' thing), and Athena is an Ancient. If this is a thing, it's more likely an Ancient thing than it is an auracite thing.

    Or maybe they're just very generic eyes. I don't look at that eye design and see anything especially unique; that's approximately how human eyes (and a lot of other species' eyes) are shaped when you remove a lot of detail. It's how I'd draw an eye if you pressed me for one. Must a simplistic eye design be attached to anything larger, can't it just be an eye?

    Hell, one of your pieces of evidence is Mamool Jan attire; Mamool Ja have a lot of diversity in eye shapes from their sub-species, but the sub-species Galool Ja Ja's from certainly seem to have that shape, especially when you account for a difference you completely neglected: that the pupils (which may in fact be the actual eye when looking at Mamool Ja eyes) on that armguard are way larger than the eye motif in Athena's bacxkground.

    And that's all without getting into the fact that P12S is fake nonsense in-universe, Athena canonically didn't do that phase change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    And I can see one, but it sure isn't 'auracite'. Remember, the Shadowkeeper was manifested by an Ascian (and one who seemed particularly into the whole 'bring back the Ancient world' thing), and Athena is an Ancient. If this is a thing, it's more likely an Ancient thing than it is an auracite thing.

    Or maybe they're just very generic eyes. I don't look at that eye design and see anything especially unique; that's approximately how human eyes (and a lot of other species' eyes) are shaped when you remove a lot of detail. It's how I'd draw an eye if you pressed me for one. Must a simplistic eye design be attached to anything larger, can't it just be an eye?

    Hell, one of your pieces of evidence is Mamool Jan attire; Mamool Ja have a lot of diversity in eye shapes from their sub-species, but the sub-species Galool Ja Ja's from certainly seem to have that shape, especially when you account for a difference you completely neglected: that the pupils (which may in fact be the actual eye when looking at Mamool Ja eyes) on that armguard are way larger than the eye motif in Athena's bacxkground.

    And that's all without getting into the fact that P12S is fake nonsense in-universe, Athena canonically didn't do that phase change.
    Well, thank you for your feedback. Seems you have a lot of strong opinions, and seem to hold a grudge.

    The point of this thread was inca influence in Dawntrail lore. I think that's so much more interesting. So please don't make this about your justice.

    You challenged me and what I meant by bringing the Ultima reference up, but I won't indulge you on that anymore.

    The emblem/symbol found in Y'shtola's book and on Thancred's map is really interesting, because it's similar to the Inca ceque system in the way they are applying it to the map and try to find the city of gold.

    Really hoping we get more context to how huaca's are connected to the lore and what significance they hold.
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