Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
Their reason for removing Kaiten was button bloat. But Samurai has other examples of button bloat that would have made FAR more sense to remove.

Some examples:

Have Ikishoten turn into Ogi Namikiri.

Merge Shoha and Shoha 2 (560 to first target, 200 to all nearby enemies).

Boom button/action bloat reduced, no change to the gameplay. Now you can keep Kaiten while meeting the original goal!
It really would be great if the devs could take the consolidation tech from moves like PLD's Confiteor and SMN's Gemshine and apply them to existing classes. I'm 100% onboard for this! Though there may be valid reasons they don't do it? Even though I'd love it? XD

Though even if they did such a thing, they might still feel like the lack of Kaiten makes things even better? Or there may be supplemental reasons in addition to the primary reason. Which is just to say, I would suggest tempering hopes. But it would be nice if a solution like this did work and made everyone happy! ^^