Yoshi P in a nutshell

[Deo14]

With respect, this seems to have swept past the intent of my initial comment. I said there was a history of Yoshi-P making changes according to feedback, and insinuated that that history shouldn't be ignored. If the magnitude of that history isn't to someone's liking, sure, say as much, weigh in. Just don't ignore it.

Some people do latch on these few cases as a tick. That's more about some people in the community, who try to argue with giving those few examples as some foolproof argument.

I'm definitely one of those people who would like major changes to the glam system such as the ones you listed. But I also understand when we don't get them, perhaps because I've worked in game dev myself? The way Yoshi-P talks about certain desired changes gives me the impression that the 2.0 implementation made a lot of understandably hasty choices that would at this point be costly to adjust. And as the game's producer, it's his job to min-max all of the possible work that could be done and decide which work is most worth the limited bandwidth the team has, which will necessarily take into account how much work each task takes and how much reward it's expected to bring. The higher the cost of making a change, the lower it's ratio of juice-per-squeeze. And sometimes that means that features I'd love get left on the cutting room floor.

For me, it's seems questionable that in this expansion they've been actively trying to make this game a single player, instead of focusing on this stuff that people do want. I get that attracting new players is priority, but it would be nice if veterans got a little bit more than just scraps.

I don't see the fact that there are problems as evidence that the devs aren't listening; rather, it generally highlights their priorities, as well as problems that are genuinely difficult to solve. In this case, it might suggest that these issues aren't seen as a meaningful enough problem to enough of the player base to be worth the cost of adjusting them. Maybe there are enough players that like the way things are that it complicates things. It's hard to say. But I'd be quite surprised to learn the devs are acting in opposition to what they believe the bulk of their players want, as that would be sabotaging their own project and careers.

That I would understand. But in case of healers, they got told to "just play ultimates". I get that this is hard thing to fix, but they still haven't done anything meaningful to address that. In case of Kaiten, that's relatively easy thing to fix, just revert to the state that people were happy with. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the whole SAM 6.1 clown fiesta, but here's my thread if want it in more detail. Long story short, all reasons they gave us make no sense if you dig just a few centimeters under a surface. They specifically asked for feedback about it, which we did provide, and then they ghosted us. You can check DPS forums, even after 1.5 year, people are still not happy about it. So if they don't care about this, how can you expect them to care about anything else?

[Miracle_Diva]

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It took them 10 years to add visible buff timers on group buffs in party list.

[Arzalis]

You mean like when SE had a problem with the queuing system and kept blaming it on players/ISPs/routers/anyone-but-them? At least, until they were shamed into fixing it because someone very explicitly proved it was them. I remember them spending weeks ignoring feedback then. If someone had taken even just a few hours to look into it they'd have figured out there was an issue given what was going on.

There's a trend of the devs ignoring feedback or claiming something is "impossible" until they get publicly proven wrong, then they begrudgingly do it.

Realistically, it's just that something isn't a priority, but they don't want to say that. So they try to make up a more PR friendly way of saying "we just don't want to." Personally I'd rather them just be honest instead of borderline lying about it.

[Rolder50]

You mean like when SE had a problem with the queuing system and kept blaming it on players/ISPs/routers/anyone-but-them? At least, until they were shamed into fixing it because someone very explicitly proved it was them. I remember them spending weeks ignoring feedback then. If someone had taken even just a few hours to look into it they'd have figured out there was an issue given what was going on.

Also fun to consider that they still do this even today in regards to oGCDs clipping if your latency is even a little too high.

[NekiUno]

Yeah, I think these forums is Bad Civilization outside of few threads here and there. I am kinda surprised that the FFXIV Discord is decent compare to this. But this is nothing to other AAA official forums, it will make this place tame.

[Sotaris]

Yeah, I think these forums is Bad Civilization outside of few threads here and there. I am kinda surprised that the FFXIV Discord is decent compare to this. But this is nothing to other AAA official forums, it will make this place tame.

There is a good reason I’m not here that much anymore. So much negativity and doom and gloom, plus all the trolls and name calling.

[4clubbedace]

learn japanese and make complaints on the jp forum. Eng forum is full of alts, memes, and low effort baits, they stopped listening here for awhile.

[SturmChurro]

learn japanese and make complaints on the jp forum. Eng forum is full of alts, memes, and low effort baits, they stopped listening here for awhile.

When was the last time they listened to feedback here?

[Aword3213]

When was the last time they listened to feedback here?

Then why are we here?

[4clubbedace]

When was the last time they listened to feedback here?

early days when more dev members would hang around, hw days? now they look at popular QOL plugins and create official versions to get people off them. Not everyoen that complains has good ideas

from live letter: having raid diagrams in game so i dont need shitty mspaint explanations helps a lot, i like that