Too strict in-game communication rules

[Loke48]

So a normal dungeon session has 120 minutes, you just said you liked to waste 100 minutes of that alloted time. Wrong its actually 90 minutes which makes wasting 100 minutes of someones time while in a dungeon, worse...


Satasha isnt a "path" its linear, you cant skip slaves in the bossroom, you cant skip going to that boss cause you need a key, you can only skip one optional part of it. If one optional tiny area is "not linear" then i wonder how you see the Shadowbringers dungeons.

Ive gone though Satasha, and ive done it way too many times, you're being disingenuous, specially after this entire thread about being "Too strict in-game communication rules".
Your purposly wasting peoples time, and if they say no, that is a bannable offence thanks to the strict ingame communication rules.


I dont think you know the dungeon or people Jeeqbit, cause its neither sprawling, nor do you have plenty of paths to choose from, its litteraly 1 optional way to go though, then you gotta get back to the main path, and then its almot a straight way to the Captain bossroom.

[Leifei]

The TOS is fine. Communicating in a dungeon is pretty detrimental anyways since people are usually clicking buttons to do their jobs. That said, I've seen people squeeze in conversation when running from one pull to the next plenty of times without issue.. Also, if you want to chat with folks, there's plenty of people to talk to in the major cities, gold saucer, etc when not in battle. You can even go to those beeskness go brr clubs that people have created. As for giving feedback to a player on their job, or handling mechanics, you're safe as long as you're not rude to them. I've given feedback to people plenty of times and I've never had any interactions with a GM. I've been a part of drama too as that's inevitable when interacting with people.

[Tsumdere]

Every time a post like this is made, it draws giant red target signs on the backs of people who don't understand that they have low social skills and are horrible to be around. Every time you hear a story of someone getting actioned because of these rules they always turn out to be the bad guy in the situation. People need to learn they are not the main character and there is consequences for being a raging baby in a video game.

I've been playing this game for 8 years and not a single time have I gotten actioned. I tell people what to do constantly. I've even gotten into very heated disagreements with people in DF/PF. I've told people to go back to learning parties and not join clear ready groups. I've called someone a griefer and said good luck finding another DSR PF group because no one likes them. I despise going through dungeons with single-pull tanks and if they refuse to pull more after I ask I leave.

You cannot get banned for giving advice or disagreeing/disliking someone. You can get banned for being an insufferable asshole while doing it.

[Leifei]

Turns out that people that are underperforming/playing badly are entitled and lack basic human empathy, maybe we should coddle them because they cant accept criticism and refuse to get better, but they think they should be catered to, they also think they are entitled to wasting everyone's time by not improving their skills and not accepting any advice.



Want to give them a little pat on the head too ? And tell them good job and that they did well and at least tried ? Maybe a little kiss on the forehead too

I'll take that head pat and kiss on the forehead. Haha, joke aside, agreed on not coddling players that want to hold the rest of the team back.

[Myrany]

Plenty of people are fine taking their time when they are new to the game. It is the veteran players that don't like having their time wasted. This is because they've seen it all before and they just want to get their roulette done or grind their tomestones.

There are other routes you can go in, but it's easy to forget this if you've never gone through them.

You can very much skip freeing the slaves or going to the coffers in other sections.

I actually did not know there were other things to explore until I did it with Duty support (to see how it worked before my group terrified sister joined). When I suddenly didn't have group pushing me in a set path I discovered there is a bunch of other stuff to see and if I remember correctly more loot to be had as well.

[Loke48]

You mean this room?

[Myrany]

Those and other nooks and crannies. For example I did not know about the note that tells you which thing to pick for the coeurl boss because no one had bothered with it in groups. I also did not know about the loot chest in the room with the clams since everyone skips it.

I have taken to either going back and soloing old dungeons to explore it all and read the notes or doing them with duty support so I can take my time exploring.

Honestly if someone in the group is a first time in there (and its easy to tell who really IS a first timer) I am more than willing to slow down and let them see the sights. Then again I have been playing for 4.5 years and am only halfway through Shadowbringers. I take my time and enjoy the journey.

[AlexiaD]

Then again I have been playing for 4.5 years and am only halfway through Shadowbringers.

I'm sorry but what

[Saraide]

I'm sorry but what

It's a 10 year journey, didnt you know? /s

[Jeeqbit]

So a normal dungeon session has 120 minutes, you just said you liked to waste 100 minutes of that alloted time. Wrong its actually 90 minutes which makes wasting 100 minutes of someones time while in a dungeon, worse...

I didn't say any such thing and you're attributing numbers to me that were originally said by you. The point I was obviously making is that a lot of new players just want to absorb themselves in this new game they are playing and aren't trying to rush through it. Some people might be trying to rush to level 90 to do the raids but many are not.

If one optional tiny area is "not linear" then i wonder how you see the Shadowbringers dungeons.

I see them as not having this "optional tiny area" and beside that there are 4 other optional areas visible on your map that you didn't highlight.

I dont think you know the dungeon or people Jeeqbit

You obviously don't understand that not all players are the same and that there is also a big difference between how you see things as a lost new player trying to make sense of FF14 and how you see things when you are an impatient veteran player trying to rush through a dungeon because you've already done it before.