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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaros View Post
    Why do we all need to coddle the people who fail?

    "Yes little jimmy you didn't fail it's just that if X happens it would be awesome if you do Y!!! Hearts and kisses kisses"
    Why do people need to act like jerks?

    It's a game played for fun. Not everyone has the same skill potential, many for reasons outside of their control such as medical problems.

    There are polite ways to handle issues that arise.
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    Player RosaliaDLB's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Why do people need to act like jerks?

    It's a game played for fun. Not everyone has the same skill potential, many for reasons outside of their control such as medical problems.

    There are polite ways to handle issues that arise.
    Stop trying to turn this game into a complete safespace, or go with other people that think the same way you do, I played WoW for over 14 years, I was told I was doing things wrong, that my DPS was terrible, and I took a lesson from that and improved, and got better at the game at the risk of getting kicked as it was in "high end content", which is normal, either I "git gud" or I can leave and go do raid finder, who am I to hold people back because I am failing at what I'm doing ? Also lol at the medical problems excuse, give me a break
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaros View Post
    Why do we all need to coddle the people who fail?
    Because the game needs to be an ultra comfy safe space so that the people who don't even try can feel like they're good at the game when they clearly aren't by any objective standard. Because putting in genuine effort to try and improve at games is obviously a relic of the past and anyone who thinks differently is a jerk. Obviously.
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    Thea Shinri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaros View Post
    Why do we all need to coddle the people who fail?

    "Yes little jimmy you didn't fail it's just that if X happens it would be awesome if you do Y!!! Hearts and kisses kisses"
    Because some people's skin is paper thin. I've had people instantly leave after neutrally worded word of advice after they wiped party twice.

    We're at the point of diminishing returns, further policing will just make people beware of any talking at all, and you can never truly silence toxicity. Ban knifes, people will kill each other with stones. Ban stones, people will strangle each other. Only way how to stop this entirely is to imprison everyone in their own cell.

    I'm saying silencing specifically, because if you are repeatedly doing terrible, people will think that you're dumb. Just because they don't say it, doesn't mean they don't think it. This game doesn't cultivate toxicity-free people, it cultivates people that are afraid to speak their mind because of risk of ban.
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    Player Aaros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Why do people need to act like jerks?

    It's a game played for fun. Not everyone has the same skill potential, many for reasons outside of their control such as medical problems.

    There are polite ways to handle issues that arise.
    Lol 140% of the time they don't have any medical problems they're just lazy
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    i mean i've been warned for getting into an argument w/ some1 in my group cuz he got mad that i rescued him out of an aoe so um.. yea
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    If you feel that you need to censor yourself to not being banned, maybe you should check why. Unless you directly insult someone, admit you are using 3rd party tools or cheats, you will not get banned. I've playing since release and not a single GM told me anything.

    Some people thinks that they are allowed to be rude on other players without consequences because they are "right". There are plenty of ways to communicate without being disrespectful. Some of you think that telling someone "Your DPS is shit" or "You play like shit" or "Your're a noob" is perfectly acceptable, but think twice and you will realize it is not. If you can't communicate without being rude or recurring to personal attacks or whatever, then the problem is you, not the rules.

    Also people here manipulates a lot the message. They say things in game like "You are stupid noobs, you don´t know the mechanics works like this?" Then they come this forum or reddit or whatever and tell you "I got an account suspension because I explained the mechanics! Bad GM!". No, you got suspended for insulting, not for explaining. I've been explaining mechanics all my life in this game an no one banned me for a single minute.
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    Player ChonkGoblinSuprem's Avatar
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    ITT: Turns out that toxic players are entitled and lack basic human empathy. Maybe we should coddle them because they have psychological problems?
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    Player RosaliaDLB's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChonkGoblinSuprem View Post
    ITT: Turns out that toxic players are entitled and lack basic human empathy. Maybe we should coddle them because they have psychological problems?
    Turns out that people that are underperforming/playing badly are entitled and lack basic human empathy, maybe we should coddle them because they cant accept criticism and refuse to get better, but they think they should be catered to, they also think they are entitled to wasting everyone's time by not improving their skills and not accepting any advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    It's more so to avoid needless chat drama even though I believe having to walk on eggshells with even trying to express a negative statement is very silly and dumb for it to be grounds for punishment.

    But it can be done, so instead of saying to someone "Your strat is bad". If you word it out with "let's rethink the strat" then it would still convey the actual need to do what you wanted without it being just a simple callout.
    Want to give them a little pat on the head too ? And tell them good job and that they did well and at least tried ? Maybe a little kiss on the forehead too
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    Last edited by RosaliaDLB; 08-16-2023 at 09:18 PM.

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    Seijuro Kibagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosaliaDLB View Post
    Turns out that people that are underperforming/playing badly are entitled and lack basic human empathy, maybe we should coddle them because they cant accept criticism and refuse to get better, but they think they should be catered to, they also think they are entitled to wasting everyone's time by not improving their skills and not accepting any advice.



    Want to give them a little pat on the head too ? And tell them good job and that they did well and at least tried ? Maybe a little kiss on the forehead too
    I'll take that head pat and kiss on the forehead. Haha, joke aside, agreed on not coddling players that want to hold the rest of the team back.
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