Too strict in-game communication rules

[Avoidy]

There've been threads in the past where people were temporarily banned for stuff they said in chat, but the GMs wouldn't release the logs to protect whoever reported them, so we've never been able to truly know what was said. There're so many instances of people who were banned or given a strike who have no idea what they even did wrong because of this. I realize a lot of people are in here like "well I've never been in trouble for speaking my mind," but go actually read the ToS op linked and then understand that all it takes is one butthurt imbecile to land a strike on your account that just sits there and never goes away, all because of some banal thing you said after a wipe. And yeah, that's basically why even though I'm generally polite and mild mannered (though it might not seem that way from my forum posts sometimes, haha), I only get honest in chat when it's around people I know, and barely say more than a "hi" or a "my bad" if it's randoms. Call it paranoid, idc, this community gets blown the hell out emotionally over the smallest slights imaginable, so good luck with that if you wanna see how long you can go. I really think the only thing stopping more people from reporting is how bad the report system is in general. It's like a whole separate form that you have to struggle to find because just right clicking people only gives you an rmt report option for some reason.

idk, not trying to shit on anyone. props to people who just say shit in dutyfinder. couldn't be me though, this community's soft and gets butthurt over anything. For example, I've seen people early pull by mistake and get threatened with a report for it, in like... alliance raids, lmao. Or we had this guy a while back who kept trying to dump these long exhaustive "mechanical explanation macros" in chat before each boss in the orbonne monastery, and when someone in our group was like "bro nobody asked for this" the macro guy got all butthurt and pissy that nobody, not even the newcomers, wanted to have a fucking guide for an easy game forced on them for the next 40 minutes. Another time, someone in our group reminded our DNC to just ... partner someone, anyone, and the DNC got pissy as hell over being told what to do. Basically this community makes me wonder how they function in the real world sometimes, so I speak as little as possible in dutyfinder, and when I do have to say more than a greeting, I feel like I'm walking on eggshells about it and I fucking hate it.

[Tsurayu]

It is only defined that strictly in examples for the sake of coverage - basically so Square Enix has the authority and due process to be as lenient or as strict as they want without having to be concerned with players being able to sue or get out of the contract because it was full of loopholes and therefore not binding. You'll see most companies do exactly the same thing.

You're likely to never get in trouble for passively mentioning to someone that they are doing a mechanic wrong, or that they are even a bad player, so long as you do it in a respectable manner. It's just that Square Enix CAN be that strict, and they want that to be understood in documentation.

[Rehayem]

I've been threatened to be reported because I commented once on someone's lack of job skills at lvl 60 I believe. Ever since then, I just never speak unless it's "gg" after the run is done.

[Remolia]

Basicly you can't even simply tell "your tactic is bad" without risking a report and consequences.

No, it depends from the way u saying it, if u focusing on insulting a person - its bad, if u are focusing on explaining mistakes, without insulting anyone - its ok.
"U succ, u bad, u silly, why cant u play better? Get Good! Why cant focus on 'A'? are u stupid? Worst party I ever have! Looks like we have a french healer... Our dps are sleeping!" - is not a good way to explain player mistakes/flaws.

Also "your tactic is bad", when used in proper context, will not risk u to get bonked. Simply if u focus on why tactic is bad, instead of focusing on insulting the person who suggested the "tactic"

[TheMightyMollusk]

I swear I've seen grapes with thicker skin than some of the people in this thread.

[Boys]

I swear I've seen grapes with thicker skin than some of the people in this thread.

While others are more edgy then 1.0 Endwalker ones. xD
"Truth is somehwere in between." But noone left to acknowledge it.

[GTK0HLK]

aaannd,
it seems the thread is practically over.

As most are now back and forth, and the OP has officially gone into safemode/bluescreen

now focusing on comments that aren't focusing on things that are vaguely debatable or discuss able.

Hope you all have a good day
Remember,
Rules and Exceptions
(This whole thread was built on the latter. While the former didn't bother the majority at all)

[Boys]

aaannd,
it seems the thread is practically over.

As most are now back and forth, and the OP has officially gone into safemode/bluescreen

now focusing on comments that aren't focusing on things that are vaguely debatable or discuss able.

Hope you all have a good day
Remember,
Rules and Exceptions
(This whole thread was built on the latter. While the former didn't bother the majority at all)

Everyone has their limits. Sorry to dissapoint. Betetr luck next time?

[TheMightyMollusk]

I've had maybe three bad experiences with the in-game community in the entire time I've been playing. The community is the same as any other large group of random anonymous people. It averages out much nicer than most MMOs I've played, but whether that's about XIV's community being good or most MMOs being cesspits is open to interpretation.

[Limecat]

I've always been of the opinion that online games should come with an opt-out censor, and then nothing beyond that. Once someone disables it everything is on the table, and the only response GMs should have is an automated "Turn your profanity filter back on lol." message and ticket closure.