Too strict in-game communication rules

[ZenoDiogenes]

The moment they came up with all those ridiculous examples of how to potentially get banned, I stopped chatting and interacting with players I don't know. Not worth the risk.

[CidHeiral]

It's not surprising people talk little in the game world (outside their groups) besides very basic and repeating messages (hi, gg, gratz, etc),

This is nonsense. I've made numerous friends in game just walking up and joining in on conversations I saw happening in cities or wherever.

People complaining about "omg you can't say anything!!1" always feign ignorance about what they said to get reported and the truth is always something obviously not okay.

It's like back in the day when people could appeal their Xbox Live bans on a forum like this one. Little Timmy would go on there and cry "I can't believe I got banned I didn't do anything wtf!!!" and then without fail mods would post the logs of Little Timmy's racist tirade or something equally vile.

The ToS is only a problem if you're a jerk. Don't be a jerk and you won't have a problem.

[Boys]

There's that problem especially profound with game forums - "mistake of survivor". People which agree that rules are indeed very strict are few and most won't even bother typing a single letter here, because they quit if they value human (like in human human sense) interection in mmo and games as a whole. And they know they won't change shit (sorry don't report me) nothing without power or masses of social media. Jesus, people start using words like "diplomatic approach" like it's not your fellow gammer you gonna play with, but a sultan of another country. All of this is toxic in its own rightful way.

[Jeeqbit]

people start using words like "diplomatic approach" like it's not your fellow gamer you gonna play with, but a sultan of another country.

That sort of respect should be shown to all human beings. Which is why leaders of countries show it to eachother. Our leaders lead by example, you could say.

Saying that citizens of countries should just be rude and obnoxious to eachother is ridiculous. Yes, it may be common that they are like this to eachother, but that does not mean Square Enix should allow such awful behaviour on their playground.

You are a guest in Square Enix's house. When you are a guest in anyone's house, you are polite and respectful. If you are not, you often get kicked out. No different here.

It's not even about what you say, it's about how you say it, as I explained.

[Boys]

That sort of respect should be shown to all human beings. Which is why leaders of countries show it to eachother. Our leaders lead by example, you could say.

Saying that citizens of countries should just be rude and obnoxious to eachother is ridiculous. Yes, it may be common that they are like this to eachother, but that does not mean Square Enix should allow such awful behaviour on their playground.

You are a guest in Square Enix's house. When you are a guest in anyone's house, you are polite and respectful. If you are not, you often get kicked out. No different here.

It's not even about what you say, it's about how you say it, as I explained.

Some people might tell you're trolling with part about SE's house. And guests don't exactly pay for visiting. What is this, McDonalds employee brainwash (as much as I respect the buisness)?

[Jeeqbit]

Some people might tell you're trolling with part about SE's house.

No, I am not. I am speaking from experience interacting with SE's GMs when I reported someone. They were extremely apologetic that they allowed this person to behave this way in their game. That tells me that they see it as their house and want everyone in it to behave respectfully.

And guests don't exactly pay for visiting.

You may believe that, because you pay, you suddenly have the right to be as rude as you like. That isn't how it works and a restaurant would kick you out if you were rude. In fact I did get kicked out once. I once told the cook in a restaurant that I thought they should improve their diet (I was genuinely concerned for them based on how they looked if you catch my drift). I got banned from there for life.

[SenorPatty]

Been here for 8 years and my way of speaking to people hasn't changed nor is it even being careful on eggshells: it's just a matter of being simple and getting to what the actual problem is and making your peace that anyone can report you for anything. That's all.

Thing is, there are people that think getting to the person first before the problem is the way to handle situations, then get confused that people accuse them of toxicity and go for reports because they spoke neutrally. Unfortunate because while speaking neutrally should be just taken as that and everyone is on their way, there's a big difference between saying "your tactic is bad" and "we need to change tactics". Same as "your messing up this mechanic" vs "this mechanic can be cleared by doing this". Nothing guarantees that the latter both cases is going to be well received all the time but their chances do go up significantly. Now personally, while I do use this, I don't stick to it all the time as there are obviously going to be situations where you're going to have to address directly someone but as usual, the key-in this game at least-is to always speak concisely as possible and more importantly, keep it at a one time thing. Don't push it. If it's rejected, leave it- another thing that some people also can't seem to do.

[Boys]

Been here for 8 years and my way of speaking to people hasn't changed nor is it even being careful on eggshells: it's just a matter of being simple and getting to what the actual problem is and making your peace that anyone can report you for anything. That's all.

Thing is, there are people that think getting to the person first before the problem is the way to handle situations, then get confused that people accuse them of toxicity and go for reports because they spoke neutrally. Unfortunate because while speaking neutrally should be just taken as that and everyone is on their way, there's a big difference between saying "your tactic is bad" and "we need to change tactics". Same as "your messing up this mechanic" vs "this mechanic can be cleared by doing this". Nothing guarantees that the latter both cases is going to be well received all the time but their chances do go up significantly. Now personally, while I do use this, I don't stick to it all the time as there are obviously going to be situations where you're going to have to address directly someone but as usual, the key-in this game at least-is to always speak concisely as possible and more importantly, keep it at a one time thing. Don't push it. If it's rejected, leave it- another thing that some people also can't seem to do.

You might not believe me, but that's exact guidance I use, generally not pressing people after first thrown words.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I'm overly sarcastic with a weird sense of humor and minimal filter, and I've never heard from a GM about it.

The secret is not swearing or using obvious insults or slurs. Most of the moderation is probably automated. You hit the filter, you're getting a warning.

[Jeeqbit]

I'm overly sarcastic with a weird sense of humor and minimal filter, and I've never heard from a GM about it.

The secret is not swearing or using obvious insults or slurs. Most of the moderation is probably automated. You hit the filter, you're getting a warning.

It's not automated. They react to player reports, so a lot of this behaviour goes through without anyone noticing until it's reported.