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    Eisi's Avatar
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    Is healer dissatisfaction just an issue outside of JP?

    I was checking out the JP forums and the only threads I could find there that were bringing up the blandness of glarespam and general uninspiredness of healer design were literally created by international players and generally received little appreciation.

    This whole thing seems like it doesn't matter much to JP players at all who appear quite satisfied. Which is rather unfortunate considering the amount of sway those players have over development compared to everyone else. Is this a false analysis? How come we regard the situation so differently if we do?
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    From my understanding, the JP don't come to the forums to give critique/complain about the game like us NA and EU players. They instead post that kind of stuff onto bigger social media sites like twitter or 2-chan. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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    It's hard for us to discuss something in languages we don't speak. Outside of the fact that we don't know if the forums culture is the same there in terms of directly complaining about what we don't like, we're likely to miss nuances of communication if we resort to machine translation and it's somehow magically understandable in English.

    Are you able to provide examples of threads where they're appearing satisfied or otherwise and the translations of such? Provided that they ARE filtering what they post here, can you point to other popular locations on the Internet at which they'll have less filtered conversations, complete with translations?

    I get the desire to want to have this conversation or even just the knowledge given how it feels like there's radio silence given the frustrations expressed here.

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    You can compare at live letters circa HW to see that AST's state was constantly brought up and responded to, even if it wasn't very specific (usually was just 'we're aware of player concerns with the job balance of AST and we're planning on adjusting it for the next patch', not anything specific or any detailed discussion of their design approach). By contrast, today we don't get that from the Producer at all, we just have the changes and a brief explanation after the fact under the job actions.[/S][/S]


    Taken from a thread that sought to ask this question directly on the JP side with the OP just using a machine translation to hopefully get their point across:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...81%97%E3%81%BF

    Quote Originally Posted by Reoh View Post
    ネイティブでない言語では、正しいニュアンスは伝わりませんし、実際に伝わってきません。
    その伝えようとする努力は素敵な物だと思いますが、ここは日本をネイティブとする人が使うためのフォーラムです。
    あなたの言語のフォーラムで、開発に意見をお伝えください。
    はっきり言ってしまうと意味の伝わらない主張はただフォーラムの疲弊を招くだけで、建設的な議論は一切なしえません。
    もし行いたいのであれば、日本語をネイティブ相当に扱える人を代理で立てるべきでしょう。


    In a non-native language, the correct nuances cannot be conveyed, and indeed are not conveyed.
    The effort to convey this is a nice thing, but this is a forum for use by people who are native Japanese speakers.
    Please share your views with development in your native forum.
    To be clear, arguments that don't make sense will only lead to forum fatigue and no constructive discussion at all.
    If you want to do this, you should get someone who can speak Japanese as well as a native to speak on your behalf.
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    Last edited by Post; 08-15-2023 at 02:14 AM.