Relics Complete.

[Starlord]

Your opinion fails.

Cutter's Cry in under 17 minutes going to be the end of the road for most linkshells.
Dungeons in under 17 minutes, Garuda and Ifrit Extreme are all skill/teamwork/DPS checks.
If you're trying to get a Relic and fail and were stopped at Hamlet seals you wouldn't of made it to the end anyway.

Congratulations to Scorpion LS.

Then your opinion fails

Edit: anyone else want to troll my experience? I respect everyone elses.. so why not mine? perhaps I'm having bad luck? but doesn't mean to go all down my throat for expressing it! kthanx bye!

[Isaaru]

Hamlets is basically more luck than skill when it comes to getting seals with random people, but then again I have seen people who cannot complete a 60k Hamlet run with a provisioner.

The rest of the quest besides Currency and Double Melding is all skill based.

[Mirage]

i remember how it took forever to get one in ffxi, now people already have them in ffxiv in no time lol.

And thank twelve for that. FF11 relics were ridiculous, and imposed a soft-cap on gear progression that plagued the game for years, until they finally figured out that they could add weapons stronger than the lv75 relics if they just let us boost the relics even further.

[Ruisu]

Glad they had the time and patience to deal with all the "Luck factor" of this Long Quest...

Congrats to them for dealing with it.

As for the rest of the 95% of the people who can't get due to various and obvious reasons ( mine being everything being about luck to get it) I hope SE reconsiders the conditions to beat this quest.. because unless you are extremely hardcore at this or Extremely lucky there's no way alot of the people on here are going to tolerate this. I know quite a few people are waiting for a changes ( 2.0 perhaps) to make it more about skill than luck.. and I'm one of those people.

Other than this quest.. I'm happy with the game and look forward to 2.0!

Aside from hamlet defense and the double meld, no, it's pretty much just skill/progression at that point.

[AnaviAnael]

Congratulations!

[Sanctus]

can you only get the mythril etc from a 17minute run, or does that just make it 100% drop?

[Chardrizard]

Aside from hamlet defense and the double meld, no, it's pretty much just skill/progression at that point.

No! First two steps iis luck! Any other steps doesnt counts since i havent been there!

[Zezlar]

can you only get the mythril etc from a 17minute run, or does that just make it 100% drop?

You can get one without it but the drop rate is like 1%.

[Zdenka]

If you are trying to PUG the hamlets (to get seal via Luck) you'll never get a relic


Hamlet Seal: perseverance/time
Double Meld: PERSEVERANCE/a very tiny amt of luck, everyone should get <13 melds
17mAV/CC: SKILL
Coins: GRIND
Ifrit X: SKILL


Anyways after seeing a full video of Ifrit X it doesn't seem that too entirely different than normal Ifrit to me. Zezlar etc gl at the fight I don't think you'll have too many problems with it if latency doesn't royally screw you over.

[Leo_Hart]

You can get one without it but the drop rate is like 1%.

Yes， i get 2 Miser Mythril from non-017 mins @ AV, and one member got one Salt from non-17 mins runs @ CC.