Dawntrail Healer Change Predicitons

[ty_taurus]

I figure conversations about what changes and new actions people think the healers will receive for Dawntrail will probably start popping up in the near future, so here's a thread to dump them into.

Personally, I'm torn between pessimistic and very cautiously optimistic. Mainly because I cannot imagine that we will get even more healing cooldowns when we are already drowning in them, but then again, I also can't fathom how we got here in the first place, so perhaps that my ignorance.

[BRVV]

I hope for party-wide short invuln and i think they will dumb down the role further by:

- giving us a second lucid dreaming like mana regen
- giving us a skill to pass aggro if we accidentally got it
- even more shields or regens
- maybe a partywide Esuna


oh and what would be interessting would be a second rez spell with even higher mp costs, only about 5 seconds long but with a long cooldown

[Semirhage]

For patch 5.12? I'd be pleasantly surprised if we got more than

• A DoT upgrade
• Maybe a Glareoileficosis potency bump
• oGCD (expansion gimmick like mitigation for Meleewalker)
• Yet Another 2-minute healing oGCD
• A mechanic they strip off a lower level, then sell back as a "capstone"

[BRVV]

For patch 5.12?

No... 7.0...

[Shikiseki]

"In order to help healers keep track on their DoT, we have decided to remove the skill and give their primary attack like "Glare" a 30second DoT effect" /s

[BRVV]

"In order to help healers keep track on their DoT, we have decided to remove the skill and give their primary attack like "Glare" a 30second DoT effect" /s

I know you are joking... but let's hope they don't go there... we know they could...

[ty_taurus]

Here's my pragmatic white mage prediction (i.e. what I think will happen, not what I think should happen):

Regen: Level 35 > Level 20.

Afflatus Solace: Level 52 > Level 35.

Secret of the Lily: Level 52 > Level 35. Generates a lily every 20 > 40 seconds.

Aero III: *Returned/Reworked* - Deals 880 potency damage to your target and 50% less for all other enemies. Can only be executed when the Wind Lily is in full bloom.

Transcendent Winds: *New* - Adds a Wind Lily to the Healing Gauge after 3 uses of Afflatus Solace or Afflatus Rapture.

Afflatus Rapture: Level 76 > Level 52.

Secret of the Lily II: *Returned/Reworked* - Increases Lily generation to every 30 seconds.

Stone IV: Potency 260 > Potency 250.

Glare: Potency 290 > Potency 280.

Afflatus Misery: *Replaces Aero III* - Potency 1240 > Potency 1200.

Transcendent Afflatus: Upgrades the Wind Lily to the Blood Lily and upgrades Aero III to Afflatus Misery.

Secret of the Lily III: *New* - Increases Lily generation to every 20 seconds.

Afflatus Shelter: *New* Level 76 - 100 potency regen on self and all party members within 30 yalms for 15 seconds and reduces magic damage taken by 5% for 15 seconds. 60 second GCD cooldown. Costs 1 lily. Nourishes the Blood Lily.

Glare III: Potency 310 > Potency 300.

Glare IV: *New* - Level 92 - Single target damage with a potency of 320.

Glare Mastery II: *New* - Level 92 - Upgrades Glare III to Glare IV. Increases the potency of Afflatus Misery to 1280.

Dia II: *New* - Level 92 - Single target DoT with a potency of 70. Lasts 30 seconds.

Dia Mastery: *New* - Level 92 - Upgrades Dia to Dia II.

Florescence: *New* - Level 94 - Blooms 1 Lily on the Healing Gauge. OGCD with a cooldown of 90 seconds.

Enhanced Assize: *New* - Level 98 - Allows for the accumulation of charges for consecutive uses of Assize. 2 Charges.

Eschaton: *New* - Level 100 (GCD Spell) - Deals damage to all enemies within 20 yalms with a potency of 320 and 50% less for all remaining enemies. Additional effect: restores HP to self and all party members within 20 yalms with a potency of 400. Additional effect: Applies Eschaton as a buff to self and all allies within 20 yalms for 20 seconds. Eschaton buff effect: Restores HP with a potency of 400 when the target next takes damage. Eschaton cannot only be executed while under the effects of Temperance. Cannot be set to the hotbar (replaces Temperance while Temperance's effect is active).

[Renathras]

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Honestly, I do agree the Devs have become somewhat bland in healer thinking. We'll see what they do with AST - we really need to know what that rework looks like since that will signal where they're likely taking the other healers; will it be making it more like WHM/SGE, or more making it like SB AST/SCH? - but I think MOST of what you said could be correct. The specific things I think you aren't right on:

Aero III - They'd more likely call this Banish or something instead, saves them having to rename Wind Lily later.

Afflatus Shelter would NOT come at level 76, it'd be the level 94 or 100 ability. Something I've noticed, even when it would make sense to do so, absent a total rework (like SMN), they do not give new abilities at lower levels than the entering level of the new expansion. Like Afflatus Solace is level 52 now, but when it was added in ShB, wasn't it a higher level? Stoneskin was removed in SB to replace with Benison, but Benison wasn't gained at level 12 or whenever you got old Stoneskin, it was added at 66 or so.

Point is, while possible, I feel like they'd make Shelter the level cap ability, either as new ability or a Trait upgrade of Rapture.

Florescense I could 100% see them doing, though it'd probably be a 60 sec CD, not sure.

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Not sure it's what they will do - when we get some words about the AST rework, we'll have a better idea - but I can agree with that. That and the "new ability for the latest gimmick" like how EW gave us "multi-hit attack" Lilybell, Panhamia, and arguably Macrocosmos (SCH was already pre-ready for this with Seraph...sorta)

EDIT:

Oh, that's the somewhat black pilled take. I'm honestly not really sure what they'll do. That or Rein's predictions would be the "standard" per EW, but I'm not sure if that'll be what they go with or not.

It's also not a "what I would like to see", as I'm honestly not entirely sure on that. My personal desires have more to do with changing up encounter design than healer kits, per se, and abilities added/changed would need to reflect whatever encounter design is changed to. And I'm not sure any such change will be happening.

[Semirhage]

No... 7.0...

That's the joke. Endwalker has felt like 5.6 since it barely shook the combat system up. Half-joking prediction based on the information we have so far is that Dawntrail will be Shadowbringers patch 12.

[BRVV]

That's the joke. Endwalker has felt like 5.6 since it barely shook the combat system up. Half-joking prediction based on the information we have so far is that Dawntrail will be Shadowbringers patch 12.

Ah thanks for clarification. I knew you didn't misstype or missunderstand but i didn't get why you wrote 5.12