[6.0 - 6.4 Spoilers] An interesting video detailing Venat's polarizing reception

[KizuyaKatogami]

It's on the second page. They are direct quotes from Venat about what she plans to do and her reasons. Been posted many times over the years this thing has been going on.

@the other guy your tally is 13 now. As for why nobody is saying that poster is wrong is well...cuz they're not. You just don't agree with them. If they said something wrong I'd say something at the very least. However you and your buds have piled onto trying to discredit them because they said 4chan. Like you do with pretty much anybody that disagrees with you.

It’s a literal alt…As for the page 2 comment, that was already disproven quite easily, and it’s been disproven before, and Cleretic knows this. That’s why he has no rebuttal. Venat didn’t even tell her closest advisors the truth about Meteion. This is fact. Emet didn’t know about the cause of the final days in ShB. This is fact. Meaning she didn’t tell them about that. The only thing she mentions in that cutscene is Zodiark isn’t a permanent solution. That isn’t warning her people of the upcoming apocalypse.

[thegreatonemal]

It’s a literal alt…As for the page 2 comment, that was already disproven quite easily, and it’s been disproven before, and Cleretic knows this. That’s why he has no rebuttal. Venat didn’t even tell her closest advisors the truth about Meteion. This is fact. Emet didn’t know about the cause of the final days in ShB. This is fact. Meaning she didn’t tell them about that. The only thing she mentions in that cutscene is Zodiark isn’t a permanent solution. That isn’t warning her people of the upcoming apocalypse.

You mean the thing you said about altering his memory again, or somehow using pandemonium? Both things that didn't happen in the story and are simply your crack pot theory as to what could have been done. Both of which don't work and also didn't happen. I asked you to show me the game disproving it, not give me what you would have liked to happen. Please keep up. Also look at the second thing they quoted, we aren't just talking about the shb cutscene here.

[KizuyaKatogami]

You mean the thing you said about altering his memory again, or somehow using pandemonium? Both things that didn't happen in the story and are simply your crack pot theory as to what could have been done. Both of which don't work and also didn't happen. I asked you to show me the game disproving it, not give me what you would have liked to happen. Please keep up. Also look at the second thing they quoted, we aren't just talking about the shb cutscene here.

But Cleretic used the ShB cutscene as evidence. I’m disproving that. And according to your words if that’s disproven then everything else is up in the air as well. Not to mention both events are conflicted by short stories and lore QnA with the devs. Which you would know, if you’d watched the videos this thread is about. Again you’re just making yourself look like a clown in front of the people who have actually watched the video.

[thegreatonemal]

But Cleretic used the ShB cutscene as evidence. I’m disproving that. And according to your words if that’s disproven then everything else is up in the air as well. Not to mention both events are conflicted by short stories and lore QnA with the devs. Which you would know, if you’d watched the videos this thread is about. Again you’re just making yourself look like a clown in front of the people who have actually watched the video.

It wasn't the only piece chief and it wasn't the piece I was referring to. So go ahead, disprove the one I am talking about I'll wait.

@above. Think its terrible all you wish. She was playing a risky game as is also she doesn't give up so easily. They had a whole planetwide debate remember. Eldibus pulled himself out of zodiark to mediate and they could find no common ground. It ended in a fight if you recall.
your tally is 15 now. You just keep moving in twos chief. Wanna go for three? Mix it up a bit.

[KizuyaKatogami]

It wasn't the only piece chief and it wasn't the piece I was referring to. So go ahead, disprove the one I am talking about I'll wait.

@above. Think its terrible all you wish. She was playing a risky game as is also she doesn't give up so easily. They had a whole planetwide debate remember. Eldibus pulled himself out of zodiark to mediate and they could find no common ground. It ended in a fight if you recall.
your tally is 15 now. You just keep moving in twos chief. Wanna go for three? Mix it up a bit.

Point me to where it says she approached the convocation after Elidibus pulled himself out of Zodiark to mediate.

[KizuyaKatogami]

. Or claim that the story views Venat as a hero and seems to give her a pass for what she did? If the

Her minion description literally calls her a hero word for word. The Codex calls her a Primal of Peace.

[KizuyaKatogami]

The word hero isn't uttered in the description. What's that, another lie for you now. Should we start a tally on your lies too?

The fact you make yourself think you're so right that you can't even do something so basic as read properly.

[thegreatonemal]

The fact you make yourself think you're so right that you can't even do something so basic as read properly.

Pretty sure that's the minions name and not the description and the fact that you take all this umbrage with a minion that bares the greek word for hero So all this time you had issue with the minion? Why didn't you say that in all these years? Really reaching there and both of you jumped in to quote that too. So starved to correct somebody. Did it feel good? Should I include halves in your tally?

@above. Given their natures they already know why it was done and that it was the last resort. Why beat a dead horse at that point? They know how the world they are living in came to be and they know why it happened.

It states what she was to her people and it states what she did. She did all that so as it says, hope will endure. It's just a statement of fact. I get why they wanna paint it as hero worship. I just think their own bias against Veant and that section of the story colors their judgment. They should probably take a few steps back. But then again, they aren't really aruging or doing anything in good faith so of course they won't take that sensible option. Note how they'll probably focus on that part of my post and nothing else. Her codex entry reads to me as her faith in mankind being able to pass this trial, even if the version of mankind she knew was mostly refusing to do anything, because they were too focused on getting their old world back. If they could have looked passed their grief I'm sure the sundering wouldn't have happened. The entire narrative would have to be rewritten though too bad they don't even give us some kind of branching timeline like they did with the 8UC to chew on.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Pretty sure that's the minions name and not the description and the fact that you take all this umbrage with a minion that bares the greek word for hero So all this time you had issue with the minion? Why didn't you say that in all these years? Really reaching there and both of you jumped in to quote that too. So starved to correct somebody. Did it feel good?

? I’m not even going based off of the herois name. It literally says “you all know who this HERO is.”

And then also includes a quote from -Ancient HERO.

Also….i have mentioned the hero description. Numerous times. In many posts. Not starved to correct you seeing as i’ve been correcting you all day i’m quite sated actually.Keep flailing and trying to back up on how wrong you are. It’s certainly entertaining.

[thegreatonemal]

? I’m not even going based off of the herois name. It literally says “you all know who this HERO is.”

And then also includes a quote from -Ancient HERO.

Also….i have mentioned the hero description. Numerous times. In many posts. Not starved to correct you seeing as i’ve been correcting you all day i’m quite sated actually.Keep flailing and trying to back up on how wrong you are. It’s certainly entertaining.

All of that isn't the minion description. That's just what the item says before you use it. Also you expect me to follow you around wherever you post, how am I supposed to know you've said it many times? That's your lane chief. This is the first time you've said it in our conversation. And the third time you've lied. Not gonna keep a running tally of you lying but it does amuse me