Trying to get in ffxiv, not new to mmorpgs

[greywclf]

I mean when I played WoW I did high end mythic plus and raiding. But a lot of it revolved around a community of people or "guild" of people. It was why I played WoW for so long. But after expansions of guilds fall apart because not enough people it got old and just frustrating. So I'm looking for something that has a community that can make it fun while doing the content on the game.

[DixieBellOCE]

A lot of what i am about to say has already been mentioned, But here we go.

Final Fantasy XIV is not an MMORPG. It is an RPGMMO.

The game is designed for EVERYONE to be able to beat it, which means the story of the entire game is at the skill level of a 6yo Minecraft player and does not get more difficult as the game goes on, infact i would say that it gets easier over time as more and more of the player base have begged for an MMO to become a single player game.

The endgame contains next to no real MMO content, outside of completing the same two max level dungeons on repeat every single day for 4 months (Which are so stupidly easy that it becomes a chore to even queue them for weekly tomestone limit), you only have 4 raid bosses, 2 trial bosses and an alliance raid (Also way too easy) to last you for an entire 8 month major patch cycle.

The best part about being a new player, is the backlog of content you can do synced to get a near release experience of older content. That will last around 2-3 years for a casual player, or about 1 year for a hardcore MMO player. Unfortunately, if you play the game on anything other than NA or JP, you will have to sit through excruciatingly long party finder times just trying to find people to DO the old content with you.

The game has the potential to be massive, and outscale every MMO on the market, but sadly the developers do not want to experiment with new ideas and keep player retention up, and anything you say about it will just stir up the typical white knights that have played the game since SHB and tell you to go play other games if you don't like what we are given, even if you have been playing since 2.0 and know the developers CAN deliver better content.

[Kakurady]

The best part about being a new player, is the backlog of content you can do synced to get a near release experience of older content. That will last around 2-3 years for a casual player, or about 1 year for a hardcore MMO player.

There are ten years of backlog, and thanks to level syncing, they don't become obsolete when a new expansion releases.

I think three years for a casual player is an underestimate. I started playing three years ago and haven't started Endwalker yet - but I would not advise most people to dive into the backlog first like I do.

If you are looking for a group of people to run high-end content, perhaps give the Community Finder on the official website a go. Be sure you're looking in the correct data center and world (if you're not logged in, it will show Adamantoise).

[Jojoya]

Not that I don't enjoy questing. I just need a reason to do it and then do the stuff afterwards. Like in WoW you do the storyline and then have content afterwards. IE raiding, mythic plus dungeons, uhm professions. which is why I got into this because it's a lot more indepth I guess.

At the basic level, it's the same here though unlike WoW the story quests aren't mostly optional. The additional content gets unlocked as you reach milestones in the MSQ instead of being able to unlock the content based on your character level.

The big difference is that WoW has a heavy emphasis on level cap content from the current expansion. Here, the story is important and they try to keep content from all expansions somewhat relevant (if only through roulettes for tomestones).

I mean when I played WoW I did high end mythic plus and raiding. But a lot of it revolved around a community of people or "guild" of people. It was why I played WoW for so long. But after expansions of guilds fall apart because not enough people it got old and just frustrating. So I'm looking for something that has a community that can make it fun while doing the content on the game.

FFXIV doesn't really have an equivalent to M+. Raiding is different here.

Arguments over MMORPG or RPGMMO aside, Normal mode raiding is done through Duty Finder. Just queue up and you'll get matched to a group. EX Trials and Savage raiding are done through PF. It definitely can help to find a permanent group ("static") for Savage raiding even if statics can come with the same problems as raiding guilds in WoW.

Community here can be very involved in non-raid content in addition to raid content because there is a lot of non-level cap content worth doing depending on your interests. If you're only interested in raiding, then you'll probably find content here on the light side. The last thing you want to do is play this game as if it was WoW because it is different beyond the basic "do quests and level up to unlock content".

If you are not comfortable with joining a Free Company because of your WoW guild experience, then try joining Novice Network if you're still eligible. It's helpful to be part of a group that can answer your questions about what to expect and how to unlock content and find groups for it.

[tsuchii]

Think of 14 like a long, long, long movie, and you are the lead actor.
And that movie, when you decide to pause it, has some MMO elements.
You can say 14 is more like an RPGMMO than an MMORPG.

If you are craving the mindless grinds, the power scales, the senseless leveling, the meaningless hard battles - it is available on 14 but not as hard as those of any old school Korean MMOs.

It's largely a JRPG before it's an MMO. That's why it is massively, massively popular.

[greywclf]

Thank you. and I think I'm definitely looking for a social but also difficult content. I'll take a look into what you suggested and just get through the quests and such.

[Koros]

social but also difficult content

ok then ignore 99% of the forums that hasn't done a single extreme or savage

go on the balance discord: https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/

ask your questions there and get into raiding, the forums are literally pepegas and they will give you horrible advice

and don't use community finder to find statics (FF14 version of guilds) use discord

gilgamesh also used to be the raiding server back in HW, it won't be hard to find a social FC with raiders.

[Renalt]

If you are looking for a community i would try the community finder. That way you don't need to wait for someone to do their little spiel. You can just find one on your server and get in contact that way.

[Minarisweet]

I like how you're presenting hard facts and people are still doing mental gymnastics around it.

Boot lickers are gonna lick I suposse.

[kaynide]

I like how you're presenting hard facts and people are still doing mental gymnastics around it.

Boot lickers are gonna lick I suposse.

Who, if anyone, is bootlicking in this thread? Literally everyone is saying something like "ah yeah, if you don't like X, you probably won't like Y", or "Ah, the forums aren't the place for endgame specifics, check out the discord/community finder".

Everyone here has just been describing the game as is, for better or for worse, answering OPs questions. Most have been fairly critical of the bad points of the game or how those points might not jive with what OP is looking for.

Other than mostly on-point descriptions, the only off topic/useless post in this thread has been yours..and now mine.