Do we really need the Scions again?

[AlucaDragonheart]

I understand that people love these characters, but do we really need all of them back again? Their character arcs were concluded pretty well in Endwalker, in my opinion. Do we really need to see Y'shtola still being sassy and being the one who explains everything to us? Do we really need to see Estinien being terrible at handling money once again? It's a shame that instead of meeting a whole new cast of characters who will join us from 7.0 onward, we're just back to the same recycled characters again. Erenville could've been the catalyst, the first of our new companions, and then we could've slowly built up our new cast of companions along the way, but I guess that wasn't their plan.

[Sindele]

Every time someone posts a new one of these threads, the Scions get booked for one more expansion.

[Striker44]

There's nothing stopping them from introducing new characters alongside the familiar cast. Zero has become a main character and Vrtra a major supporting character throughout the 6.x patches while certain Scions are still involved. But yes, whether you or I personally like it or not, we "really do" need the Scions again. They're tremendously popular among the playerbase at large and our main "party" for this FF adventure. They're not going anywhere.

[Stormpeaks]

There's nothing stopping them from introducing new characters alongside the familiar cast. Zero has become a main character and Vrtra a major supporting character throughout the 6.x patches while certain Scions are still involved. But yes, whether you or I personally like it or not, we "really do" need the Scions again. They're tremendously popular among the playerbase at large and our main "party" for this FF adventure. They're not going anywhere.

"I think they're popular so the playerbase thinks they're popular"

Talk for yourself, it aint the first time you do this buddy, you dont speak for the playerbase

[ForsakenRoe]

Can they at least sod off for like, more than 2 patches though? We're meant to have disbanded, couldn't we have, say, Y'shtola and Urianger go away for an expansion (as in, 7.0-7.5) and then come back, presumably with new outfit/new job learned? It's seeming like Krile's gonna get that treatment (cool), but I just don't get why we can't have similar happen with the main lot. At this point I kinda care more about the side crew because the fact they're 'side crew' means they're actually more at risk of a permanent death. If Thancred's setup for a death in SHB was fated to just be 'lol fakeout gotcha' from the start, then the main team is officially immune

I think I'm gonna eventually go insane if Y'shtola keeps forcefeeding me the lore explanations for things I already worked out half an hour ago, please just Flow yourself and stay there till like 7.3 or so

[AlucaDragonheart]

I think I'm gonna eventually go insane if Y'shtola keeps forcefeeding me the lore explanations for things I already worked out half an hour ago

And that's one of the biggest issues I'm going to have with this expansion, instead of meeting a new character/companion who is a native of Tural, who will explain the lore of their home and their various legends to us, Y'shtola will instead read it all from a book and relay it all back to us, as she always does.

[ForsakenRoe]

And that's one of the biggest issues I'm going to have with this expansion, instead of meeting a new character/companion who is a native of Tural, who will explain the lore of their home and their various legends to us, Y'shtola will instead read it all from a book and relay it all back to us, as she always does.

Exactly. Like, I'd forgive them slightly if it was Uri who was the nerd who explains the lore, cos it fits his character, he's super bookworm (that'd be really funny, people hope to get lore explained by him but come out with more questions cos of how he talks, imagine). Instead they crammed together every possible character archetype onto Y, presumably to try and create the most broad-reaching 'waifu'. And instead for some, it makes her the most unlikeable character on the cast. The devs are trying too hard to make her appeal to as many people as possible, I guess. Can't wait for her to randomly 'discover' a way to undo her 'blindness'. At least Thancred remembers to make mention of the fact his aether's scuffed, and changed jobs to combat it somewhat, but you could explain Y's eye color change as 'she lost her contact lenses in the Lifestream' and it'd have as much effect on the narrative as the current explanation seems to

[kpxmanifesto]

And that's one of the biggest issues I'm going to have with this expansion, instead of meeting a new character/companion who is a native of Tural, who will explain the lore of their home and their various legends to us, Y'shtola will instead read it all from a book and relay it all back to us, as she always does.

I really hope this doesn't happen and that the writers switch it up and let Y'shtola take a backseat for this. This is a great opportunity for SE to introduce some new characters, and I hope they capitalize on it.

[Zachia]

Counter argument, do we really need the forums for people to be the loud vocal minority? The scions are the best developed characters any MMORPG has ever done. They are so popular the cat scions have cults. I feel like anytime people mention that the scions should go away or stop bringing them into the game are the same people who want to see the game actually fail. Think about it like this would it be Final Fantasy 7 without Cloud and his friends? If they made an expansion and not a single character of the main cast was there? Would that be "High quality story telling?" or would it be better just to make it into a whole new game and not Final Fantasy 7 2.0.

FF14 IS the WoL With the Scions.

[Basil_Buffheart]

oh no how could they include the main characters in the game