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  1. #71
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    Nebelheim's Avatar
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    Lilisette Lufaise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    This is what the content of the game has been since ARR. If you're asking for a square peg to go into a round hole, it's okay to not play the game and go do something you do enjoy.
    during arr at least the content lasted the entire patch even when the next patch came out i wasn't fully finished all pieces of content. The arr relic alone during the atma and the previous step it took more then just one patch for me to finish a step.
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  2. #72
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    It's up to SE to offer enough content that all players have something to do, it's part of the implicit contract when they sell a monthly sub, and not our responsability to do that content if it's not up to our taste. Then our options are complaining about it or leave. Which one do you think SE prefer?
    No MMO developer is ever going to be able to keep every single player busy the entire time they are subscribed with new content. Even with how incredibly grindy and time-consuming EverQuest was, I needed alts to keep myself busy until the next expansion because I played so much.

    And what makes completing 10k S rank hunts to get a reward (achievement) to fill time before an expansion a chore but sitting in a single zone like Eureka or Bozja grinding the same thing day in and day out to get a reward (item) isn't a chore? I think people gloss over that they're both repetitive tasks that lead to some thing that someone wants. It's not really new or varied content.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    No MMO developer is ever going to be able to keep every single player busy the entire time they are subscribed with new content. Even with how incredibly grindy and time-consuming EverQuest was, I needed alts to keep myself busy until the next expansion because I played so much.

    And what makes completing 10k S rank hunts to get a reward (achievement) to fill time before an expansion a chore but sitting in a single zone like Eureka or Bozja grinding the same thing day in and day out to get a reward (item) isn't a chore? I think people gloss over that they're both repetitive tasks that lead to some thing that someone wants. It's not really new or varied content.
    Surely an MMO developer on the size of Square Enix can make content that lasts more than 2 days and also has 5-6 months in between patches.
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  4. #74
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    So the game and developers shouldnt take veterans like us into account? The game for every expansion, every patch release must always be centred around new players? Many new players don't have great attention spans for games like this and that should not be catered to, I am fine with people leaving the game and quitting.
    So you want them to release content that occupies your every day into eternity? The fact is there will come a point where you will have done everything you want to do and will be waiting for the next, and pretending like this is unique to XIV is just plain ignorant. What exactly is it you want though, new dungeons every week, currency you have to grind every day to be able to acquire gear, something new every month that has never been in game before? There just is no way to create content that takes longer to consume than to develop unless you create daily required grinds to progress.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    So you want them to release content that occupies your every day into eternity? The fact is there will come a point where you will have done everything you want to do and will be waiting for the next, and pretending like this is unique to XIV is just plain ignorant. What exactly is it you want though, new dungeons every week, currency you have to grind every day to be able to acquire gear, something new every month that has never been in game before? There just is no way to create content that takes longer to consume than to develop unless you create daily required grinds to progress.
    Bro the content literally lasts 2 days, 2 days once every 6 months, stop excusing mediocrity. A week if you are very slow and at the most 2 weeks if you slow yourself down on purpose to slow content consumption.

    Asking for more content =/ wanting something to do 24 7 for the entire patch, but a bit more than 2 days yes ?
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Bro the content literally lasts 2 days, 2 days once every 6 months, stop excusing mediocrity. A week if you are very slow and at the most 2 weeks if you slow yourself down on purpose to slow content consumption.

    Asking for more content =/ wanting something to do 24 7 for the entire patch, but a bit more than 2 days yes ?
    So people never repeat content in other MMOs for currencies or gear pieces they want, they run it once it releases and never again.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    No MMO developer is ever going to be able to keep every single player busy the entire time they are subscribed with new content. Even with how incredibly grindy and time-consuming EverQuest was, I needed alts to keep myself busy until the next expansion because I played so much.
    No MMO developper is going to be able to keep every single player subbed but surely they can do better than XIV.
    More often than not lately I've been twiddling my thumbs IG, logging with a desire to play but finding nothing to do outside of raiding with the static and boring stuff I've done a million times already like roulettes.
    And it's been like that for a while despite work and the numerous gaming releases from 2023 keeping me busy.
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  8. #78
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    So people never repeat content in other MMOs for currencies or gear pieces they want, they run it once it releases and never again.
    Mythic+ system says hi, infinite rewards, weekly reward that scales with the level of the dungeon you did that week, that's an incentive to run content over and over again, they also had variants by the use of affixes to make the content fun (or unfun depending on the week) but at least its infinite content, same thing for raids. You can make repeating content fun by adding scaling rewards or anything of the sort, FFXIV has none of it.

    FFXIV has an absolute bore of a dungeon system ,no scaling, no affixes, it's just a bland dungeon that you can speedrun through and pull the entire areas without any care at all and still survive without any issues, and the raids are.. well they are fun for a while but then theres nothing again.

    No, I promise you, running Aglaia for the 1000th times or fishing for the 10000 fishes achievement is not fun, it really isnt, but its the only content there is so people do it anyway because they are bored to oblivion.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 08-04-2023 at 03:33 AM.

  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Mythic+ system says hi, infinite rewards, weekly reward that scales with the level of the dungeon you did that week, that's an incentive to run content over and over again, they also had variants by the use of affixes to make the content fun (or unfun depending on the week) but at least its infinite content, same thing for raids.

    FFXIV has an absolute bore of a dungeon system ,no scaling, no affixes, it's just a bland dungeon that you can speedrun through and pull the entire areas without any care at all and still survive without any issues, and the raids are.. well they are fun for a while but then theres nothing again.

    No, I promise you, running Aglaia for the 1000th times or fishing for the 10000 fishes achievement is not fun, it really isnt, but its the only content there is so people do it anyway because they are bored to oblivion.
    So you're saying that repeating content for currencies in other games is alright but not here? The dungeons here are a little on the bland side and I am not arguing they aren't, what I am saying is other games don't constantly release new content either, they get you to re run old content for a limited currency or reward. I am also going to say the forbidden words, if FFXIV content is suiting your needs, and there is a particularly long wait to next patch or expansion you want, then maybe consider playing a game that clearly is meeting your needs until you want to return. I know you expect XIV to cater to your every want but that is just not the case, a lot of players other than you and some here do enjoy things like fishing and crafting and gathering, which is much more robust here than other MMOs
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    Last edited by SieyaM; 08-04-2023 at 03:37 AM.

  10. #80
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    So you're saying that repeating content for currencies in other games is alright but not here? The dungeons here are a little on the bland side and I am not arguing they aren't, what I am saying is other games don't constantly release new content either, they get you to re run old content for a limited currency or reward.
    There is a giant difference between repeating challenging content that scales rewards and also has affixes, on top of giving a weekly reward the higher you go, and repeating a boring dungeon in which the mobs do no damage and you get... absolutely nothing out of it
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