Data from lucky bancho about participation in field content

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Why do people have to justify player participation in any content?!

"I dont like Custom Deliveries, devs should stop creating this!"
"I dont like Ultimates, devs should stop creating this!"
"I dont like PVP, devs should stop creating this!"
"I dont like Glamours, devs should stop creating this!"

Why do Devs have to cater to your likings, anyway?
If you dont like it, don't do it. I'm not a fan of every piece of content either. So why forcing your dislikes onto others?
Stop acting like your opinion only matters.
And instead of whining about how bad or boring content, give proper feedback.
The only thing that you're allowed to complain is the lack of communication. It's hilarious that we have to rely on a damn Famitsu article to get more information.

This isn't aimed at anyone particularly, but to all forum users btw.

Because there is a finite amount of resources that can go into the development of the game, those resources of course being time and money. Everyone wants to see the game get as many resources devoted to developing the stuff they want, and not the stuff they don't. It's that simple. It's a bit selfish but its not personal. I will never set foot in an ultimate so why should I care?

That said, again, it isn't personal. In a perfect world everyone gets the FFXIV that they want. But we dont live in a perfect world.

[Koros]

finite amount of resources

Please stop lmao, they're very obviously milking this cash cow and sending the revenue to failed projects like Marvel's Avengers and Forspoken, and most recently their dev team was all working on FF16 with very apparent effects.

How can you say this while they promised they'll "spare no expense" on FF14? Rofl

[AwesomeJr44]

Please stop lmao, they're very obviously milking this cash cow and sending the revenue to failed projects like Marvel's Avengers and Forspoken, and most recently their dev team was all working on FF16 with very apparent effects.

How can you say this while they promised they'll "spare no expense" on FF14? Rofl

We have decided to take your subscription money and use it to fund our newest game. Here is a picture of it:



Please be excited for it and please understand.

In related news, we will be adding a new $40 taco mount to the mogstation store to assist in funding this new project.

[ValkyrieL]

Major factor why higher participation was because RELICS were tied to it, doesn't mean people enjoyed it.....heck put relic behind Guildhest....watch its participation go 1000x....doesn't mean people now enjoy it

[Supersnow845]

If relics are such a powerful motivator for doing content why did they give us these (tomestone) relic weapons in EW rather than tie them to the new content that dies on arrival

[Deo14]

Major factor why higher participation was because RELICS were tied to it, doesn't mean people enjoyed it.....heck put relic behind Guildhest....watch its participation go 1000x....doesn't mean people now enjoy it

If someone forces themselves to do something they don't like, that's on them. Seriously, is this game first MMORPG people have played? Does carrot and stick not ring a bell? Even in 2014's GDC panel Yoshi himself said that rewards are important, yet here we are, with criterion having virtually no rewards.

[Jojoya]

If relics are such a powerful motivator for doing content why did they give us these (tomestone) relic weapons in EW rather than tie them to the new content that dies on arrival

Many players have been asking for more choice in how they grind the items needed for their relics.

This expansion they were given choice.

Now they're angry because they opted to do the most efficient option to get it done faster and so the relic doesn't feel meaningful to them because they weren't forced into doing a single specific dungeon 20 times instead. Players could have done Variant/Criterion to farm the tomestones so the new content wouldn't be dead on arrival but chose not to because it wasn't efficient. They could have created their own grinds with content of their choice but chose not to because it wasn't efficient.

Some like to say efficiency is fun. Ironic when they then start complaining that they don't have things to do or how much they hated getting what they wanted.

There's some truth when you hear people say "players don't really know what they want". For some cases, it's that they're trying to use a game to bring some meaning to their life when they would be better off getting that meaning outside of a game. Otherwise, they wouldn't be so insistent that the relic grind has to be an uncomfortable grind. The game is filled with other content if all they were really looking for was something to do.

If someone forces themselves to do something they don't like, that's on them. Seriously, is this game first MMORPG people have played? Does carrot and stick not ring a bell? Even in 2014's GDC panel Yoshi himself said that rewards are important, yet here we are, with criterion having virtually no rewards.

Rewards are there even if they aren't the rewards that some are looking for. Most of the reward complaints come down to "give us gear".

So let's say criterion did reward gear. Either the gear would have to be bad or they would add a weekly gear lockout to it. Then what?

[Koros]

Many players have been asking for more choice in how they grind the items needed for their relics.

This expansion they were given choice.

This is reality-bending rofl

Most people didn't grind for relics. Most people just got their relics without grinding on day 1 without zero effort. Imagine calling that grinding. Congrats for setting up a complete strawman.

[Eraden]

This is reality-bending rofl

Most people didn't grind for relics. Most people just got their relics without grinding on day 1 without zero effort. Imagine calling that grinding. Congrats for setting up a complete strawman.

Just because thems has tomestones ahead of times doesn't mean stones were nots ground outs. Also, need to do Hildebrand quests first to unlocks relics. Mao nots saying is big grind but Mao IS saying there IS some grind.

[Rolder50]

Rewards are there even if they aren't the rewards that some are looking for. Most of the reward complaints come down to "give us gear".

So let's say criterion did reward gear. Either the gear would have to be bad or they would add a weekly gear lockout to it. Then what?

Have the gear be equivalent to the dungeon item level for the patch but give them unique, compelling armor models. Maybe if you do the savage version, you can get armor models that have some kinda fancy glowing effect. Think Eureka elemental armor

Boom problem solved.

Another idea: Have Criterion drop the twines and such you need to upgrade gear (with a weekly lockout), and there you go.