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    New teaser trailer was okay, but the tone and the music choice caught me off guard.

    ...in my opinion. Just my opinion. I was really thrown off by how wrong my expectations were on what I would see from the new trailer.

    We've concluded the overarching 10 year plot. It's now the beginning of something new. And I was expecting this amazing orchestral music, something really uplifting as they introduce us to this new world. Like I was expecting that sort of music like 'Driven by the Stars' from Monster Hunter World.

    Soken's rock music is great and all, but it's definitely mishandled here. They should of definitely went with orchestral. It's a step into a completely new setting and a new saga for the story.

    If they wanted to go with 'Welcome to the filler beach expansion, have fun with your vacation." Then sure. But I was very thrown off with the entire tone of the trailer. It didn't give me the feeling that I expected, so good job subverting my expectations I guess?

    I could go on about things like not expecting the scions to take center stage again, but I feel like that's a completely other topic. The whole point is, I didn't think we would have rock band music for this trailer because it didn't suit it.

    I wanted a "Welcome to a whole new world with another great journey that awaits you." Instead of "Woo! We on vacation, guys! Let's get piss drunk and party rock while shoving big fat tacos in our face"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelgarde View Post
    If they wanted to go with 'Welcome to the filler beach expansion, have fun with your vacation." Then sure. But I was very thrown off with the entire tone of the trailer.
    Well, yes, it's not really matched the Shadowbringers or Endwalker teaser, but I think it sounded better when not watching it through a stream and I think the fight sequence will make it better when we get it. Currently the fight sequence seems to get cut short.

    It's also hard to imagine going from this heated Golbez situation, to suddenly having a holiday in an expansion themed like Island Sanctuary, so that helped subvert the expectations even more.

    The detail we were given after made me feel better about it, because we're going to explore some mountains which seem interesting. Also should remember, and they did mention this, but even if they hadn't, there is a city of gold there. I hope it isn't just gold though, because I don't like anything to just be one color.

    Soken's rock music is great and all, but it's definitely mishandled here. They should of definitely went with orchestral. It's a step into a completely new setting and a new saga for the story.
    We don't question Soken. According to what was said at fanfest, he was surprised by it as well but he did what he was asked.

    I could go on about things like not expecting the scions to take center stage again, but I feel like that's a completely other topic.
    I wish they didn't as well. They did talk about the scions falling out though, so maybe we'll fight them as bosses.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelgarde View Post
    If they wanted to go with 'Welcome to the filler beach expansion, have fun with your vacation." Then sure. But I was very thrown off with the entire tone of the trailer. It didn't give me the feeling that I expected, so good job subverting my expectations I guess?

    I wanted a "Welcome to a whole new world with another great journey that awaits you." Instead of "Woo! We on vacation, guys! Let's get piss drunk and party rock while shoving big fat tacos in our face"
    Yeah, I know what you mean. It was a little too light-hearted, and I can see this trailer throwing off people who are new to the game. From an outsider's perspective, people are probably going to ask: "what the hell is this, what is the objective of this game?" I bet some might end up thinking that Dawntrail is a spin-off of FFXIV, much like how Mario Party was a spin-off of a regular Mario game or how DOA Beach Volleyball was a spin-off of the usual DOA fighting game.
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    I am actually expecting this expansion to be a detour, "fun filler" expansion as a palette cleanser that then the 7.X patches actually begin the real set up for the new arc. This doesn't feel like the foundation for the next arc to me.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I am actually expecting this expansion to be a detour, "fun filler" expansion as a palette cleanser that then the 7.X patches actually begin the real set up for the new arc. This doesn't feel like the foundation for the next arc to me.
    No particular guarantees of a long-term arc in general. They will probably do whatever they think fits. If there is a story they want to tell over two expansions they will probably do that rather than saying it has to necessarily be like the arc we've had that lasted a decade.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    From an outsider's perspective, people are probably going to ask: "what the hell is this, what is the objective of this game?"
    It's an RPG. This looks like a "where the story is going" teaser (and where it is going looks pretty interesting). And those conspicuous people must be the main cast that older players would recognise?

    Plus you get to fight some kind of giant two-headed Mayincaztec demon thing with giant swords. Cool.
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    The music sounds like the english version of some shounen anime intro. Definitely hints the writing direction won't be very different from the last 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I am actually expecting this expansion to be a detour, "fun filler" expansion as a palette cleanser that then the 7.X patches actually begin the real set up for the new arc. This doesn't feel like the foundation for the next arc to me.
    I think otherwise... this is actually the perfect foundation, because it literally sets the tone down there at the lowest possible. Like, no matter what they do, the WoL can't really be treated like a beginner adventurer anymore, so having this 'relaxed' opening theme for the arc makes a lot of sense.

    I'd personally bet that the serious tone will escalate as the MSQ progresses. I'd say the finale might as well add a big cliffhanger of the new theatening force that will be explored further in the patch series and beyond.
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    That's honestly the point. 7.0 is supposed to be a fresh start of sorts in terms of tone after Shb and EW.

    It's never good to just always up the ante in terms of tone and scale because it just dilutes the sense of urgency to the point of ridiculousness.

    There's a good example of this happening...it's called WoW Shadowlands.
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    Proof that some will never be happy no matter what
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