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  1. #21
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    Zsolen's Avatar
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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    The point of roulettes is to help people clear.

    People could not do HW/SB raids, and the cheese is a part of that. Yes, it will still be more ARR, but now at least they stand a better chance to get a pop before a 1/2 hour hits.
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  2. #22
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    Cid Heiral
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I think they'd rather stop doing araid roulette.
    Then good riddance.
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  3. #23
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    Suri Obinata
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    I for one look forward to all the complaint threads with this change of "OMG AR take so long to pop now and when they do, it's a s--show!!". And a sprinkling of "OMG sq, make people do sky sea thing before they can queue for AR!"
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  4. #24
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    Percibel Theren
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    While Crystal Tower will still statistically be the most likely, at least in my experience there are a LOT of ilvl cheese players. I swear every other ally roulette there is someone whose max HP suspiciously skyrockets the moment we get in.
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  5. #25
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    Kurotora Iga
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    For those that do not understand what it means, then when you hit you need to match the ilevel for the level 60 raids... and 70.. 80.. to be able to use the roulette.

    It is about time they did something like this, yes crystal tower will still be represented, but at least there is no way to cheese it.
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  6. #26
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    Marel Nobelle
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    I don't think that this will solve the abundance of CT raids in the roulette.

    There's already a bunch of reasons why CT is the most common that have nothing to do with ilv cheesing. I think focusing on solving those problems instead would be a better idea, starting with making the other raids worth doing by making the rewards (other than exp) match the length and effort put into the raid you get. If you're level 90, the Copied Factory or Puppet's Bunker will give you the same reward as LotA or Syrcus Tower will, but it will require far more time and effort to complete. Thus, I think better rewards should be given for raids that require more investment. Whether that be more tomestones (not poetics) or relic drops, there just needs to be something of value that comes out of doing harder/longer raids. I don't think the best solution to this is to try and simply force people to do the higher level content for the same reward. People should want to do the things they get in roulettes, not feel like they have to because a system arbitrarily required them to do it. This is a similar problem to the one with Mentor roulette, where the rewards are balanced for doing a guildhest, but you have the potential to get Praetorium or an extreme trial, and both take far longer than the reward is worth. Alliance raid roulette is going to have the same problem that Mentor does. If you get a longer Alliance raid, it might be better for you to just eat the 30m ban and leave, just like mentors already do for extreme trials.

    But, I suppose this does at least get the people who constantly blame the flaws with the roulette system on ilv cheesing to finally shut up, and maybe that will cause the other issues to get more attention, so that is at least a plus.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 07-30-2023 at 08:41 AM.

  7. #27
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windfire View Post
    I for one look forward to all the complaint threads with this change of "OMG AR take so long to pop now and when they do, it's a s--show!!". And a sprinkling of "OMG sq, make people do sky sea thing before they can queue for AR!"
    I would rather wait a bit longer to get literally anything but CT, so you won't hear complaints from people like me. And I'm used to carrying since I usually queue as healer, so I don't really care if people don't do Stone, Sky, Sea. Especially since that's for DPS and not for mechanics, by the way.
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  8. #28
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    brb queueing CT directly just for the fun of it.
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  9. #29
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    brb queueing CT directly just for the fun of it.
    And you're within your rights to do so. Though I personally never will because in its current state it's so severely understimulating that it makes me want to do something actually engaging afterwards to get the taste out of my mouth. It will be nice to not be guaranteed a free win every time I queue for the roulette.
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  10. #30
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    Aries Helle
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    Excalibur
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    This has been a long time coming. Thank goodness. People cheesing CT all the time was disgusting.
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